mapei
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Post by mapei on Aug 8, 2009 17:06:01 GMT -5
I had to go away for a few days. Did Julian finish KL early too?
This late-summer schedule is really taking the fun out of the league this year.
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ScreamingHoya
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Post by ScreamingHoya on Aug 8, 2009 17:43:52 GMT -5
Julian played today- got some boards but looked as bad as he always does. Sorry, but he's someone who, unless he does a complete 180 this year, I'm not going to find the positives in. He can't hold onto the ball, can't hit midrange, or put the ball in on baby hooks. He reminds me a lot of Rhese Gibson.
Clark looked stellar today, as he has all summer. Jeff, Tyler, and Austin also played with Julian in the third game. I'd say that they were going at about 20% today, not trying, so it's hard to get a feel for any improvement with Austin. Austin had a pretty good game statwise- hit 4-5 from 2pt, 2-3 from 3pt, 4-4 from FT, pulled some boards. But he also probably turned the ball over about ten times. He was looking as he did last year, not aggressive, looking like he really had no desire to be there at all. It is summer league, and so it's hard to tell whether they were just not going hard b/c of that, or if it's part of a larger problem.
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Aug 8, 2009 17:44:22 GMT -5
Basically what we're left with at this point:
Tombs: Julian, Jerelle, and Austin (though it's been rumored he's leaving town soon)
Clydes: Henry and Jason
DCX: Chris (sat out today)
We Are One: Hollis (ditto)
Then there are the 07 mercenaries: Green, Wallace, and Crawford.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 8, 2009 18:02:49 GMT -5
Julian played today- got some boards but looked as bad as he always does. Sorry, but he's someone who, unless he does a complete 180 this year, I'm not going to find the positives in. He can't hold onto the ball, can't hit midrange, or put the ball in on baby hooks. He reminds me a lot of Rhese Gibson. Clark looked stellar today, as he has all summer. Jeff, Tyler, and Austin also played with Julian in the third game. I'd say that they were going at about 20% today, not trying, so it's hard to get a feel for any improvement with Austin. Austin had a pretty good game statwise- hit 4-5 from 2pt, 2-3 from 3pt, 4-4 from FT, pulled some boards. But he also probably turned the ball over about ten times. He was looking as he did last year, not aggressive, looking like he really had no desire to be there at all. It is summer league, and so it's hard to tell whether they were just not going hard b/c of that, or if it's part of a larger problem. I don't know I've only seen him in two games so far, but he looks much better to me. He moves a lot better than he did last year. He grabs rebounds and his moves look a lot better. His shot didn't fall today but the moves he was making for the most part weren't bad. I think his shot will fall other days. 3-6 from 2; 2-2 from the line, 8 rebounds, 8 points 2 blks isn't a terrible stat line. sure he was also 0-2 from 3 and had 3 turn overs, but i don't think he was as bad as you make him out to be. His outing was much more encouragin than henry's |
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Post by staggerlee on Aug 9, 2009 8:17:33 GMT -5
I've only seen Julian once, but I'd have to agree with HoyaSinceBirth. Improvement physically and game wise were apparent. Lord knows I was shaking my head at the 0-2 threes though.
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Post by kellycpcm on Aug 9, 2009 11:14:17 GMT -5
Julian played yesteday. Greg is in New Orleans
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Aug 9, 2009 12:41:38 GMT -5
Thanks Kelly for letting us know
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on Aug 9, 2009 17:06:47 GMT -5
Julian has looked a lot quicker, played better positions for rebounds and has run the floor better. He also looks like he has worked on his post moves, turnaround jumper and hook. They still need a bit of work. As was pointed out to me the other night, the Princeton has only one center, that's Greg, and unfortunately for Julian, his minutes will be limited as a backup for breathers and foul trouble. Julian really looked a lot better on on D this summer.
I would like to see him get time at the four with Greg at the five, that didn't happen last year and probably won't happen this year. On the flip side Geg and Henry play well together and feed off each other. If we don't play Julian heavy minutes, our odds of appearing in Indy are slim. RIDE JULIAN TO INDY.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 9, 2009 19:46:16 GMT -5
greg could play the 4 and julian could play the 5.
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Post by sleepy on Aug 9, 2009 19:53:07 GMT -5
. I would like to see him get time at the four with Greg at the five, that didn't happen last year and probably won't happen this year. Unless you envision Henry playing 40 minutes a game, Vaughn and Monroe will be playing together this year. There is simply no other option. |
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Post by lichoya68 on Aug 9, 2009 22:31:24 GMT -5
i think for us to be really good we need atwo headed monster center julian and henry for about 25-30 minutes a game if that happens good things will happen if not long year thats the key developement we need yup thats it and henry has the ability if he can remain constant and tough and hustling etc etc and julian also does rebbies and d thats what we need
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on Aug 10, 2009 7:12:39 GMT -5
. I would like to see him get time at the four with Greg at the five, that didn't happen last year and probably won't happen this year. Unless you envision Henry playing 40 minutes a game, Vaughn and Monroe will be playing together this year. There is simply no other option. The thought it would happen last year, it didn't, they simply played Nikita for the minutes. That could happen again this year too. I just think Julian is too skilled to be only used to cover Greg's rest time and a fill-in for foul trouble. |
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Post by vcjack on Aug 10, 2009 9:09:18 GMT -5
Unless you envision Henry playing 40 minutes a game, Vaughn and Monroe will be playing together this year. There is simply no other option. The thought it would happen last year, it didn't, they simply played Nikita for the minutes. That could happen again this year too. I just think Julian is too skilled to be only used to cover Greg's rest time and a fill-in for foul trouble. I agree, I think Julian is ready to step up from just being a stopgap. Hell, if the season started tomorrow and we were using Kenner as our "tryouts" I'd think about starting him over Henry. |
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Post by sleepy on Aug 10, 2009 9:30:49 GMT -5
Unless you envision Henry playing 40 minutes a game, Vaughn and Monroe will be playing together this year. There is simply no other option. The thought it would happen last year, it didn't, they simply played Nikita for the minutes. That could happen again this year too. I just think Julian is too skilled to be only used to cover Greg's rest time and a fill-in for foul trouble. Yes, but you have to remember, even if you count Nikita as a member of the frontcourt,(which I don't) last year we had five guys to cover those two spots. It made sense to use Vaughn strictly as a sub for Monroe. This year we lose a guy that ate up a good chunk of the minutes playing the 4, and Nikitas minutes will go back mostly to the 3 if Henry or Julian are really ready. That really only leaves 3 guys to cover 2 spots, with Nikita being able slide down if need be. I don't see anyway that III is going to avoid playing Monroe and Vaughn together even if he wanted to. And I agree I would really love to see that because it means we could move Monroe to a more natural position of PF. |
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Post by skyhoya on Aug 10, 2009 9:38:06 GMT -5
sleepy, I hope you are right .
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Aug 10, 2009 9:57:49 GMT -5
Freeman is going to have a huge year. 15 lbs lighter would be my guess and the one handed dunk over two guys on Sunday was something you didn't get last year.
Stay away from the burger madness and A Free is all big east this year.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Aug 10, 2009 13:21:44 GMT -5
The thought it would happen last year, it didn't, they simply played Nikita for the minutes. That could happen again this year too. I just think Julian is too skilled to be only used to cover Greg's rest time and a fill-in for foul trouble. I agree, I think Julian is ready to step up from just being a stopgap. Hell, if the season started tomorrow and we were using Kenner as our "tryouts" I'd think about starting him over Henry. agreed Vcjack....I was saying the same thing after the games on Saturday....Henry needs to come out with some more fire and confidence! Julian has looked the better of the two so far |
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Post by lichoya68 on Aug 11, 2009 19:15:59 GMT -5
HEY IS FREEAKING FLHOYA WORKING FOR A LIVING OR SOMETHING NEED HIS GREAT REPORTS HOPE HES NOT OUTA THE COUNTRY THIS WEEK FOR THE END OF KENNER NEED SOMEBODY WHO CAN WRITE AND SPEAK ANGLISH REAL GOOD OR WELL OR WHATEVER come on back i need you and the board is bored without you go hoyas go flhoya come on down PLEASE ITS ALMOST FEBRUARY NOW COME ON THIS IS CRUNCH TIME TO EAT THE BANANNA WHATS WORK ANYWAY????I MEAN ITS NOT A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURTIY ITS JUST WORK WRIGHT  |
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Post by robbyt on Aug 11, 2009 19:53:02 GMT -5
Freeman is going to have a huge year. 15 lbs lighter would be my guess and the one handed dunk over two guys on Sunday was something you didn't get last year. Stay away from the burger madness and A Free is all big east this year. Freeman had an ill open court dunk Friday as well. Also turned on the motor and busted through about 8 surprised players in transition for a layup. Most of all this is a guy who sees the floor lucidly and has top notch spatial ability, he is a natural at seeing lanes and opportunities and understanding positioning. He actually has unusually good endurance and cardio development, should still be motoring at the end of games next year when everyone else on the court is fading. Looks like he's on rollerskates coasting up and down the floor. BTW I love Freeman at the point which they did most of the game. Wright needs to find the rythm of the game, he has the athletic ability but tends to expect things to work quickly rather than on the 6th or 7th or 8th pass, like he tried for 5 seconds to get the ball to Monroe when he was double teamed, just swing the ball to the other side and wait for the defense to balance out and Monroe will eventually get it in the course of things when the defense is not expecting it. The same rapid-fire mind also allows Wright to make quick plays, though, he had a nice touch pass in traffic and operates well in broken plays and think-quick emergency situations. I actually like Wright at 2 guard more than point, teams will have to follow him around and spread the defense since he can penetrate. |
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Post by FLHoya on Aug 11, 2009 20:56:00 GMT -5
HEY IS FREEAKING FLHOYA WORKING FOR A LIVING OR SOMETHING NEED HIS GREAT REPORTS HOPE HES NOT OUTA THE COUNTRY THIS WEEK FOR THE END OF KENNER NEED SOMEBODY WHO CAN WRITE AND SPEAK ANGLISH REAL GOOD OR WELL OR WHATEVER come on back i need you and the board is bored without you go hoyas go flhoya come on down PLEASE ITS ALMOST FEBRUARY NOW COME ON THIS IS CRUNCH TIME TO EAT THE BANANNA WHATS WORK ANYWAY????I MEAN ITS NOT A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURTIY ITS JUST WORK WRIGHT To clear up the following: 1. Yes, I work for a living. 2. Not out of the country--I was at the D.C. United-Real Madrid game on Sunday. 3. Me speak Anglish? That's un-possible. 4. Bananas and peanut butter are my go-to breakfast. 5. It's about 75/25 I'll be at the KL games tomorrow, maybe 50/50 for Thursday. |
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