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Post by thebin on Jul 15, 2009 15:11:48 GMT -5
What do you guys think of these? Obviously these are just for fun. I can't argue with the top 3 but Bocanegra is too high, I'd have Bradley bump him. Surprised to see Jermaine Jones not in the top 10, but I really don't know anything about him other than he must be very good to have been called up by Germany so many times, even if he didn't start. soccernet.espn.go.com/players/powerranking?team=USA&cc=5901 |
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Post by Jack on Jul 15, 2009 15:30:56 GMT -5
I can't disagree in terms of his apparent position in the eyes of Bradley, but I would really like to see Torres move up the list.
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Post by thebin on Jul 15, 2009 15:40:40 GMT -5
Has he been playing in the Gold Cup? I think I remember he was obligated to go back to Pachuca or where ever he plays. Real smart Bob, call him up for Confed, don't give him a minute, then send him back to Mexico.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jul 15, 2009 16:16:37 GMT -5
Bradley (jr) has proven himself to be top 5 I would say above Bocanegra, but Boca is definitely a key to the US defense. I duno about Brian Ching being as high as he is...don't think he's that much of a lock for the squad. Hejduk should be included just because of his experience and leadership but please don't let him touch the field. Jermaine Jones will be good for the US will bring some much needed toughness and speed/creativity to the midfield. The young guns are our best shot at doin anything at the WC.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 15, 2009 18:14:27 GMT -5
I know nothing about soccer, but I'd take Altidore and Daniels ten thousand times before Ching. Speed kills.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jul 15, 2009 18:31:19 GMT -5
I know nothing about soccer, but I'd take Altidore and Daniels ten thousand times before Ching. Speed kills. i assume you mean Davies  but agreed...far more dangerous than Ching at the international level |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 15, 2009 18:37:11 GMT -5
See, I know nothing about soccer.  |
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Post by FLHoya on Jul 15, 2009 21:19:11 GMT -5
Interesting (but not especially surprising) that nobody from the core Gold Cup roster (not the Gang of Seven added players) is on the Mock WC Roster that wouldn't have otherwise been. MAYBE you make an argument that Cherundolo is holding on to a fringe spot and not exactly hurting himself.
The one guy from the Gold Cup I'd keep an eye on to possibly break through for the 2010 roster is Holden.
Most intriguing two guys on that list for me, for different reasons: Damarcus Beasley and Freddy Adu. If you had to guess right now, who makes the WC roster out of those two: one, both, or neither?
Jermaine Jones = one scary looking dude
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jul 15, 2009 21:33:41 GMT -5
at this point adu....beasley hasn't shown good form since he returned from his knee injury...it's a shame because he was so dangerous going forward. He looks out of sorts and unsure now. If he regains his form then great....However, it certainly doesn't help that bradley played im at left back for the past few games. Left back he is not. that is for sure
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Post by HeartAttackHoya on Jul 16, 2009 11:59:54 GMT -5
the U.S.' comparitive advantage has to be speed and scrapiness if we are going to make any noise against the top countries in the World Cup. Pure soccer skill we will not be able to match up with the top 15 countries which is why I prefer keeping Ching off the roster and rolling the dice with Davies or Altidore should there be a choice between the three.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jul 16, 2009 13:33:17 GMT -5
exactly....and we're also forgetting about Eddie Johnson who was stinking up the joint recently and fell of the national team radar but is coming back into form nicely for Fulham this preseason. Will be interesting to see how he does this fall to get back on the roster....a front line of Altidore and Johnson (at peak form) would give opposing defenses some trouble
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Post by thebin on Jul 16, 2009 15:30:44 GMT -5
I just can't see Beasley getting on the team unless he performs well for an entire season in a top league- and that sure doesn't look like happening.
If Dolo is healthy, and it seems he will be, he has a lock on a roster spot.
Johnson can play himself back into the picture if he grabs a starting position at Fulham. Speaking of Fulham, is Dempsy still headed to Everton? If he does, and fails to play much, it will be a horrible move for the USMNT.
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Post by kghoya on Jul 16, 2009 16:21:37 GMT -5
it doesnt take much imagination to see beasley on the 2010 roster.
id like to see as little of ching on the field as possible in SA.
i really hope adu can get some time for his club team. he's rusty and the only way to get better at any sport is to play as much as possible.
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Post by Bay99 on Jul 16, 2009 17:17:13 GMT -5
Ching seems to be a Bradley guy, so I'd be shocked if he wasn't on the roster. I'd much rather take my chances with a Davies-Altidore pairing up front.
Beasley needs to hang up the national uni. It's over.
This might be a sad comment on the state of the U.S. defense, but I think Hejduk healthy is a key for 2010 even if it's just in a reserve role.
Feilhaber seems to be too high on the list. He'll be in South Africa, I'm sure, but #14?
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Post by thebin on Jul 17, 2009 12:51:29 GMT -5
Sad comment on the state of US defense? If it were 2002 I'd agree with you. Did you see the Confed Cup? Gooch, DeMerrit (who has deserved this chance for three years), Spector, and Bocanegra with Dolo being first sub? Backline seems to me to be the strong suit of the team all of the sudden. I've always liked Frankie Heydude. But he's really getting up there in years for a non-keeper.
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Post by thebin on Jul 17, 2009 12:53:51 GMT -5
it doesnt take much imagination to see beasley on the 2010 roster. id like to see as little of ching on the field as possible in SA. i really hope adu can get some time for his club team. he's rusty and the only way to get better at any sport is to play as much as possible. I'm willing to wager Beasly will not make that roster. He embarassed Bradley in South Africa once already and his club career is in shambles. The fact is he's really going to struggle to get quality games between now and SA2010 which means it will be impossible for Bradley to pick him even if he really wants to. I think at best he is an average MLS player at this point- and average MLS players don't get a whiff of the USMNT roster. I really think Bradley has to have seen the light on this one. But I can see Bradley being hard headed enough to continue to over-play Ching, who is not bad but I think we all agree that we have better options. |
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Post by kghoya on Jul 17, 2009 19:49:48 GMT -5
I think at best he is an average MLS player at this point- and average MLS players don't get a whiff of the USMNT roster. I really think Bradley has to have seen the light on this one It depends. Ben Olsen and Jimmy Conrad made the roster last time. They always played in the games. Obviously it was due to red cards and injuries, but it happened. Beasley needs to get healthy. And by get healthy I mean get fast. If he regains that form he will be on the team. |
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but agreed...far more dangerous than Ching at the international level
