Bando
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Post by Bando on Jun 30, 2009 13:25:00 GMT -5
This is ridiculous. Process matters, and while I don't agree with the steps the president was taking, the military's kidnapping of him was clearly illegal, no matter what the Congress did after the fact. I don't understand how you can consider yourself pro-democracy if you don't respect the rule of law. At a certain point, when your country's president is trying to run a coup of his own and establish a quasi-dictatorship, I think that process matters less. Bck to MJ! Hee hee! Bull Edited. The military had already refused to work the referendum, because the Supreme Court had already declared it illegal. The vote very likely wasn't going to happen, and everyone in Congress (including everyone in his own party) was gunning for him. Support from whom exactly was going to keep him in power illegally? If they want to prosecute the president through the courts, great. But the moment the military becomes a political actor, you cease to be a democracy. Everyone here is so dead set on being against Hugo Chavez that they've lost sight of the big picture. |
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Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jun 30, 2009 15:42:03 GMT -5
The MJ 24/7 coverage has overshadowed events like this headline from the WaPo online suggests: Bombing Mars; Jubilation Over Withdrawal in Iraq I think a significant press should be dedicated to the partial destruction of a planet.  |
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jun 30, 2009 19:41:55 GMT -5
right now there is a picture of jackson on the yahoo home page where i swear he looks as if he is about to say, "remember, remember the 5th of november".
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jul 1, 2009 10:46:58 GMT -5
The MJ 24/7 coverage has overshadowed events like this headline from the WaPo online suggests: Bombing Mars; Jubilation Over Withdrawal in Iraq I think a significant press should be dedicated to the partial destruction of a planet. Jupiter's next. Followed by California. |
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jul 6, 2009 9:47:56 GMT -5
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jul 6, 2009 10:24:42 GMT -5
Many people think it. Some choose to keep it to themselves. At the end of the day, the poor soul is gone and will face his maker. For his sake, I hope he was merely misunderstood.
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Jul 7, 2009 16:42:29 GMT -5
was very odd watching his daughter speak at the memorial (i didnt watch it live, i saw a clip). She seemed pretty normal but then again she was pretty calm considering she was surrounded by the entire jackson clan. It will be very interesting to see those kids grow up and what happens to them
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 28, 2009 9:41:07 GMT -5
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Post by hoyawatcher on Jul 28, 2009 13:11:28 GMT -5
If this "doc" gave MJ propofol as a sleep aid he deserves whatever comes his way. His medical license is gone - period. The estate can get whatever they want from him for malpractice (they may or may not chose to go after him though). But the case for malpractice here would take about 10 min in court (OK slight over exageration). The question I am not so sure of is the criminal angle. Jackson obviously consented to this so that part doesn't send you straight to guilty. But giving an anesthetic in a non-hospital setting and then not monitoring the patient is sure neglegent to say the least. Again don't know criminal codes but negligent homicide seems possible/reasonable. |
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Jul 28, 2009 13:56:54 GMT -5
If this "doc" gave MJ propofol as a sleep aid he deserves whatever comes his way. His medical license is gone - period. The estate can get whatever they want from him for malpractice (they may or may not chose to go after him though). But the case for malpractice here would take about 10 min in court (OK slight over exageration). The question I am not so sure of is the criminal angle. Jackson obviously consented to this so that part doesn't send you straight to guilty. But giving an anesthetic in a non-hospital setting and then not monitoring the patient is sure neglegent to say the least. Again don't know criminal codes but negligent homicide seems possible/reasonable. After the MJ case, where there were two or three suspects (including another doctor), and after the Gates case, where almost every single initial assumption made about the case turned out to be faulty, I might recommend waiting until something official comes out in the form of an indictment or official statement (especially since his lawyer has denied everything) before we convict the guy, remove his medical license, and slap him ten times with a wet noodle. |
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 28, 2009 14:32:12 GMT -5
After the MJ case, where there were two or three suspects (including another doctor), and after the Gates case, where almost every single initial assumption made about the case turned out to be faulty, I might recommend waiting until something official comes out in the form of an indictment or official statement (especially since his lawyer has denied everything) before we convict the guy, remove his medical license, and slap him ten times with a wet noodle. Killjoy. ;D |
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 24, 2009 17:14:34 GMT -5
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