casualhoya
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Post by casualhoya on May 8, 2009 8:12:06 GMT -5
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on May 8, 2009 8:26:51 GMT -5
Make bank Roy, and if you don't win start up an anti-trust suit against that lazy monopoly.
But really if any former Hoya should be suing a video game company, Vernon Macklin v 2KSports should be on the docket for false character representation. Real Vernon is put at a competitive disadvantage to the expectations set by the monster that is Virtual Vernon in College Hoops 2k7.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on May 8, 2009 8:37:35 GMT -5
Make bank Roy, and if you don't win start up an anti-trust suit against that lazy monopoly. But really if any former Hoya should be suing a video game company, Vernon Macklin v 2KSports should be on the docket for false character representation. Real Vernon is put at a competitive disadvantage to the expectations set by the monster that is Virtual Vernon in College Hoops 2k7. haha too funny does this have a chance of actually doing something in the court systems? ie do they have a case? |
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on May 8, 2009 9:03:31 GMT -5
I for one find it annoying when a sports game has unknowable characters, like some of the NBA games in the Nineties where they had to make up peoples names that were kind of like the real people but not. The only thing that can come of this is the players being even more generic. Yeah yeah great for Roy and all, but not good for people who play the games
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on May 8, 2009 9:11:18 GMT -5
They have a case, especially since I don't think EA Sports would mind paying the athletes...they just aren't allowed to under the NCAA rules.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on May 8, 2009 11:53:09 GMT -5
They have a case, especially since I don't think EA Sports would mind paying the athletes...they just aren't allowed to under the NCAA rules. Completely agree. There has to be a creative way to settle this case before you get too far past the pleading stage - setting up a scholarship fund for future usage of player's likenesses comes to mind as a possibility. At least then players are seeing some economic benefit without running afoul of NCAA rules. If you want a lazy monopolist in this story its the NCAA. |
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on May 8, 2009 13:12:13 GMT -5
They have a case, especially since I don't think EA Sports would mind paying the athletes...they just aren't allowed to under the NCAA rules. Completely agree. There has to be a creative way to settle this case before you get too far past the pleading stage - setting up a scholarship fund for future usage of player's likenesses comes to mind as a possibility. At least then players are seeing some economic benefit without running afoul of NCAA rules. If you want a lazy monopolist in this story its the NCAA. Bingo. |
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joey0403p
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Post by joey0403p on May 8, 2009 23:02:50 GMT -5
ive often thought of this as a potential solution to the issue of paying ncaa atheletes. my contention is the ncaa will never move to a "pay for play" model because under title nine anything they provide to male atheletes you must provide to female athletes. bottom line the ncaa (or the presidents / board from colleges) do not have the disposable income to make this work.
so - the solution would be sell the players jerseys (with the names on the back - and provide a share of that revenue to the player (or the team he lays for) whatever the case may be. do the same with these video games. they make the players similar or exactly like the real players. just let them use the names on the jerseys too - and collect a royalty...and distribute.
i wish i could say i think the college b ball game is clean - but who are we kidding. players parents get jobs "near" the school. AAU coaches get a salary and "job" at the university. they might not be giving them bags of cash or cars - but they are providing incentives.
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mchoya
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Post by mchoya on May 9, 2009 22:43:44 GMT -5
Make bank Roy, and if you don't win start up an anti-trust suit against that lazy monopoly. But really if any former Hoya should be suing a video game company, Vernon Macklin v 2KSports should be on the docket for false character representation. Real Vernon is put at a competitive disadvantage to the expectations set by the monster that is Virtual Vernon in College Hoops 2k7. I shot 95% from the line with Vernon and would consistently put up double-doubles in my 2k8 dynasty. Every point would be on a dunk or the after effects of attempting a dunk, without fail. |
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Post by HometownHoya on May 10, 2009 15:44:02 GMT -5
Why doesn't EA pay the SCHOOLS for the rights to use player likeness/names/jerseys? If the individual university chooses not to, then they use random names. Kind of like FIFA 09, where Netherlands International Squad has all made up names.
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Buckets
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Post by Buckets on May 11, 2009 13:15:21 GMT -5
Why doesn't EA pay the SCHOOLS for the rights to use player likeness/names/jerseys? If the individual university chooses not to, then they use random names. Kind of like FIFA 09, where Netherlands International Squad has all made up names. ...Thereby increasing the amount of money that the universities make off their student athletes and making no progress in getting the kids a cut? |
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on May 12, 2009 13:50:47 GMT -5
Why doesn't EA pay the SCHOOLS for the rights to use player likeness/names/jerseys? If the individual university chooses not to, then they use random names. Kind of like FIFA 09, where Netherlands International Squad has all made up names. That is basically the current situation. |
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Post by summersshowers on May 13, 2009 12:39:19 GMT -5
that's not "basically the current situation." there are NO names on the game as of now. it's why i play madden instead of college football. i've been begging for real names for years and have even gone as far as manually entering the names of players for the top 30-40 teams in the country (tedious and impractical, i know, considering if you're connected to the internet you can find a program that will do this). i pray for the day that college sports games finally have all the names.
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on May 13, 2009 15:23:21 GMT -5
that's not "basically the current situation." there are NO names on the game as of now. it's why i play madden instead of college football. i've been begging for real names for years and have even gone as far as manually entering the names of players for the top 30-40 teams in the country (tedious and impractical, i know, considering if you're connected to the internet you can find a program that will do this). i pray for the day that college sports games finally have all the names. The NCAA is paid a licensing fee. The universities are members of the NCAA. The college players have no equivalent of the professional league players associations who negotiated and agreed to naming rights of virtual players. Therefore, the Universities are paid licensing fees for the use of their mascot, uniforms, stadium likeness, team names, etc. but no athlete names are allowed. Paying the university any more money will not solve the situation as they are already paid and they do not have any legal rights to the athletes' names and likeness for which EA Sports could pay them. The only clear cut solution would be to establish a NCAA Athlete Players Association which would function much like a union, where the athletes as members could collectively bargain away their likenesses and names in exchange for compensation from EA Sports. |
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