Post by hifigator on May 7, 2009 16:07:12 GMT -5
I don't want to gum up the MLB thread with more endless steroid talk ... unfortunately MLB hasn't taken that same approach. In any case, someone over on that thread mentioned that the chemical Manny popped positive for was a female growth hormone. I heard that earlier on the radio and then heard more details. Here was what I posed to our board:
I haven't seen anyone address this here. Apparently, the banned substance that Manny popped positive for is a female hormone that is used to treat a number of conditions among women. But the only known use for men is as a kicker to get their own testorerone going again after coming off a steroid cycle. Now Manny has been clean as far as steroids are concerned -- as far as we know. I think that we might be seeing something that I was predicting several years back. As the Balco story broke, basically what we all found out was that a newer synthetic or designer steroid had been developed which had the same types of performance enhancing benefits, but was not detectable under the test being used at the time. Way back then, I said this is just the tip of the iceberg. There is enough money out there to recruit the newest classes of chemists to try to develop the next wave of substances. The key is that it isn't "illegal" if we don't know about it. Ex post facto is a prohibitted policy in our society -- and rightfully so. For those who need a refresher course, you basically can't be charged with a crime after the fact ... at least when the "after the fact" pertains to when the act was deemed illegal. Essentially, if a chemical isn't specifically illegal, then it is legal by default. I predict a never ending cat and mouse game between those attempting to develop the newest undetectable steroid and those trying to develop tests for them.
I could be totally off base, but it is my best guess that Manny may very well be on a steroid which is merely the newer version of the one Bonds, Marion Jones and who knows who all else was using. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me now if we find out that Lance Armstrong was using that synthetic version. That would all make sense. Now I am admittedly not a doctor/chemist, so most of what I am formulating my opinion on is second hand, but thusfar I have been right. I have no inside info on this, but I have a hunch that when all is said and done, we may very well find out that the reason Manny hasn't popped positive for steroids is that he is using the latest variety. We'll have to wait and see. In listening to the SportsFix right now, I just heard them say that the chemical is HGC (Or HCG) and that it is in fact, pretty much dedicated to kick-starting the normal testosterone production of someone coming off a steroid cycle.
Thoughts?
I haven't seen anyone address this here. Apparently, the banned substance that Manny popped positive for is a female hormone that is used to treat a number of conditions among women. But the only known use for men is as a kicker to get their own testorerone going again after coming off a steroid cycle. Now Manny has been clean as far as steroids are concerned -- as far as we know. I think that we might be seeing something that I was predicting several years back. As the Balco story broke, basically what we all found out was that a newer synthetic or designer steroid had been developed which had the same types of performance enhancing benefits, but was not detectable under the test being used at the time. Way back then, I said this is just the tip of the iceberg. There is enough money out there to recruit the newest classes of chemists to try to develop the next wave of substances. The key is that it isn't "illegal" if we don't know about it. Ex post facto is a prohibitted policy in our society -- and rightfully so. For those who need a refresher course, you basically can't be charged with a crime after the fact ... at least when the "after the fact" pertains to when the act was deemed illegal. Essentially, if a chemical isn't specifically illegal, then it is legal by default. I predict a never ending cat and mouse game between those attempting to develop the newest undetectable steroid and those trying to develop tests for them.
I could be totally off base, but it is my best guess that Manny may very well be on a steroid which is merely the newer version of the one Bonds, Marion Jones and who knows who all else was using. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me now if we find out that Lance Armstrong was using that synthetic version. That would all make sense. Now I am admittedly not a doctor/chemist, so most of what I am formulating my opinion on is second hand, but thusfar I have been right. I have no inside info on this, but I have a hunch that when all is said and done, we may very well find out that the reason Manny hasn't popped positive for steroids is that he is using the latest variety. We'll have to wait and see. In listening to the SportsFix right now, I just heard them say that the chemical is HGC (Or HCG) and that it is in fact, pretty much dedicated to kick-starting the normal testosterone production of someone coming off a steroid cycle.
Thoughts?