Boz
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Post by Boz on May 6, 2009 12:25:55 GMT -5
www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/prison-awaiting-hostile-bloggers/Before this ridiculously unconstitutional bill is considered, let alone passes (god forbid), there are a few things I need to get on the record with impunity: Bando, you are a @#$%%$ soulless, heathen pinko! Jack, you like @$@$% awful music, and you should be ashamed! Buffalo, your hometown is a @#@#%$ infested $#!^-hole! As for you, hifi, you $#%$# go to hell! You @#$@#$ go to hell and you #@#$@ die! Whew. If I waited a little longer to say those things, I could wind up in the pokey for a couple of years. ;D ----->  ------>  -------> 
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thebin
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Post by thebin on May 6, 2009 12:37:31 GMT -5
I would say there is no way this passes, but yesterday in the land of the Magna Carta the Home Secretary said an American radio jockey was banned from ever entering the UK because she detested his political views (which have never even been accused of inciting violence.)
Who knew that when Free Speech was finally destroyed it would not be at the hands of Fascists or Communists but rather at the hands of Sensitivity?
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TC
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Post by TC on May 6, 2009 12:44:03 GMT -5
Should we all go over to the Syracuse board now and get our punches in before it becomes criminalized?
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Post by strummer8526 on May 6, 2009 12:46:23 GMT -5
If this somehow miraculously managed to pass, it would get struck down faster than you can even say "gross violation of the 1st Amendment."
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Boz
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Post by Boz on May 6, 2009 12:47:56 GMT -5
If this somehow miraculously managed to pass, it would get struck down faster than you can even say "gross violation of the 1st Amendment." Either that or CasualHoya's going to get a life sentence for his Eric Devendorf-Andy Rautins tribute video. |
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Post by AustinHoya03 on May 6, 2009 12:49:10 GMT -5
I agree this bill is stupid, but I doubt it's unconstitutional. Statutes prohibiting non-electronic harassment have previously been upheld, and I don't see why electronic speech would be any more/less protected.
My problem is that this is a needless piece of legislation whose purpose is to effectively censor teenagers by bullying them from posting anything remotely controversial on the Internet.
Boz, I notice this Rep. is from Los Angeles, so she probably loves smoking bans, too.
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Bando
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Post by Bando on May 6, 2009 12:52:05 GMT -5
I get what these legislators are trying to do (what happened to Megan Meier was horrible), but this is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure electronic threats are treated the same as written and verbal ones, so I don't see the point of this.
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TC
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Post by TC on May 6, 2009 13:02:39 GMT -5
I'm thinking that the Ballroom Dancing thread might be the first thing prosecuted under this law.
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Post by strummer8526 on May 6, 2009 13:08:52 GMT -5
I agree this bill is stupid, but I doubt it's unconstitutional. Statutes prohibiting non-electronic harassment have previously been upheld, and I don't see why electronic speech would be any more/less protected. My problem is that this is a needless piece of legislation whose purpose is to effectively censor teenagers by bullying them from posting anything remotely controversial on the Internet. Boz, I notice this Rep. is from Los Angeles, so she probably loves smoking bans, too. Unless I misread the article w/ a quick skim, it seems like it would cover MUCH more than just online harassment...like HoyaFoeva would be in maximum security by now. |
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Boz
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Post by Boz on May 6, 2009 13:46:19 GMT -5
Boz, I notice this Rep. is from Los Angeles, so she probably loves smoking bans, too. Well, now you're just trying to turn me into Angry Dad. |
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Post by vcjack on May 6, 2009 14:17:51 GMT -5
I believe the law also states that no rumors may be posted anywhere on the internet without confirmation from guhoyas.com
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Post by PDRHoya99 on May 6, 2009 18:33:34 GMT -5
I believe the law also states that no rumors may be posted anywhere on the internet without confirmation from guhoyas.com Billy likes to drink Soda... Ms. Lippy's car is GREEN... |
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on May 6, 2009 19:03:29 GMT -5
I believe the law also states that no rumors may be posted anywhere on the internet without confirmation from guhoyas.com Billy likes to drink Soda... Ms. Lippy's car is GREEN... What about you sideburns? You want summa dis milk? Rather have a beer. |
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Post by mchoya on May 6, 2009 19:56:20 GMT -5
Boz, I notice this Rep. is from Los Angeles, so she probably loves smoking bans, too. Well, now you're just trying to turn me into Angry Dad. "THAT'S OPINION, NOT NEWS!" |
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Post by AustinHoya03 on May 6, 2009 22:19:01 GMT -5
Unless I misread the article w/ a quick skim, it seems like it would cover MUCH more than just online harassment...like HoyaFoeva would be in maximum security by now. Eh, I find it's a good policy to never believe Wired's representations of free speech or anti-free-speech legislation. It's the magazine that thinks that if you're not getting bizarre porn in your mailbox daily, you hate the Constitution. However, I'm going to have to give a mea culpa on this one, because the part of the Texas harassment statute addressing online communications was recently found to be unconstitutional, even though other parts of that statute have survived facial challenges in the past. Amazingly, the text of that statute is nearly identical to the text of the bill in question. FYI the case is Karenev v. State, 258 S.W.3d 210. It's on appeal in a higher court at the moment. Not sure what (if anything) is happening in other jurisdictions. FWIW, I'm usually not this pleased when I'm (probably) wrong. |
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Post by jgalt on May 7, 2009 18:29:54 GMT -5
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