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Post by BeantownHoya on May 4, 2009 11:43:06 GMT -5
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on May 4, 2009 11:53:11 GMT -5
So how many of the schools on his list will stay in? and how many will drop him? Wall has nine teams on his list of potential schools -- Florida, Baylor, Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Memphis, Miami, North Carolina and NC State.
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on May 4, 2009 11:56:45 GMT -5
coach k(rybaby) has been practically stalking wall since the season ended. i wonder if he loves his eyes enough to still take a one and done with legal baggage.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on May 4, 2009 12:11:49 GMT -5
coach k(rybaby) has been practically stalking wall since the season ended. i wonder if he loves his eyes enough to still take a one and done with legal baggage. He was able to get comfortable with Sheldon Williams and his sexual assault charges so I'm sure this relatively minor incident will be no trouble. That said, Wall is going to Kentucky.
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Diablo
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Post by Diablo on May 4, 2009 12:14:29 GMT -5
isnt this a rumor since it is not from guhoyas.com?
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hoopsmccan
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Post by hoopsmccan on May 4, 2009 12:27:07 GMT -5
Expect UCon to get into the mix....
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Post by blueandgray on May 4, 2009 12:30:57 GMT -5
not to mention Miss St.
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Post by tpk3 on May 4, 2009 12:34:26 GMT -5
There is a reason that a class act like Roy Williams would not offer John Wall, but pieces of crap like Calipari and coach dookie are stroking this kid 24/7
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Post by RDF on May 4, 2009 15:02:49 GMT -5
Wall is down to: duke, kentucky, and florida. UNC never offered him, because Roy did not want his baggage or his handlers(aau pimps). I guess all the money that world wide wes has been funneling to Wall's handlers have not made it to Wall yet. Or this is just one of the dumbest talented morons in the long history of dumb talented morons.
Coach K will use the "Ryan Kelly knows him-he's a great kid" angle from AAU ball.
Donovan will use the "we have expletive sucked the past 2 years and need better players".
Calipari will use the "This is my type of kid and Wes speaks of his high character".
Sad--because this kid is is an amazing talent--but is being led by a group of pimps and users.
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Post by HoyaSox04 on May 4, 2009 15:19:20 GMT -5
Wall is down to: duke, kentucky, and florida. UNC never offered him, because Roy did not want his baggage or his handlers(aau pimps). I guess all the money that world wide wes has been funneling to Wall's handlers have not made it to Wall yet. Or this is just one of the dumbest talented morons in the long history of dumb talented morons. Coach K will use the "Ryan Kelly knows him-he's a great kid" angle from AAU ball. Donovan will use the "we have expletive sucked the past 2 years and need better players";. Calipari will use the"This is my type of kid and Wes speaks of his high character" Sad--because this kid is is an amazing talent--but is being led by a group of pimps and users. RDF - correct me if I'm wrong, but the reason why UNC didn't offer Wall, and Wall never even bothered to look at UNC, was because Roy refused to work thru Brian Clifton, the main user/pimp of Wall? (see: www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/10924214) to recruit Wall. Does Roy have a history of not working thru AAU coaches to talk to players, or is this just a special exception? Of course, by working thru Wall's AAU coaches, I mean funnelling $$$ to these disgusting scumbags of agents who are using these kids for their own personal gain. As a sidenote, I remember reading in Adrian Wojnarowski's book about Bob Hurley and his 2004 St. Anthony's High School team that Bob Hurley would shut out coaches from recruiting his players who tried to work around him and thru the AAU coaches and handlers instead. From the guys who know recruiting pretty well, is this sort of thing common in college? IE: high school coaches who demand recruiting go through them, or AAU coaches demanding the same. I'm interested as to how it operates.
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Post by Boz on May 4, 2009 15:39:56 GMT -5
Remember the scene in Goodfellas where Paulie Cicero went in as partners with Sonny on the Bamboo Lounge?
I'm pretty sure it works something like that.
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Post by prhoya on May 4, 2009 16:48:45 GMT -5
European bball is out of the question.
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Post by hoya9797 on May 4, 2009 17:00:00 GMT -5
Wall is down to: duke, kentucky, and florida. UNC never offered him, because Roy did not want his baggage or his handlers(aau pimps). I guess all the money that world wide wes has been funneling to Wall's handlers have not made it to Wall yet. Or this is just one of the dumbest talented morons in the long history of dumb talented morons. Coach K will use the "Ryan Kelly knows him-he's a great kid" angle from AAU ball. Donovan will use the "we have expletive sucked the past 2 years and need better players". Calipari will use the "This is my type of kid and Wes speaks of his high character". Sad--because this kid is is an amazing talent--but is being led by a group of pimps and users. How is it possible that this World Wide Wes dude has been allowed to have this kind of influence over recruiting and nobody has gotten in trouble as a result? I really hope GU refuses to play those kind of games. I'm under no illusion that we are perfectly clean but I'd like to think that we make our best attempt to stay within the rules. If I ever saw us go down the Memphis and now Kentucky path of recruiting, I'd be disgusted.
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Post by Oh My! on May 4, 2009 17:57:01 GMT -5
"From the guys who know recruiting pretty well, is this sort of thing common in college? IE: high school coaches who demand recruiting go through them, or AAU coaches demanding the same. I'm interested as to how it operates."
Having witnessed both scenarios directly, I can say unequivocally that HS coaches have the players' interest/prospects at heart. A large percentage of AAU coaches, unfortunately, have their bank accounts at heart.
While not exactly a cut & dry example of recruiting being "steered" through either coach, GU experienced a scenario a few years back where an AAU coach (& the player, for that matter) wanted to go w/ the Hoyas, but the HS coach intervened, & said player went elsewhere.**
**(See Keith Bogans)
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Post by lichoya68 on May 4, 2009 18:16:12 GMT -5
let me see memphis... OOPS NOPES THE FLESH PEDDLAR IS AT KENTUCKY... THEN THERE IS the warden at cuse mr. jimmie b.... and then the wonderful parole officer at uconn mr. jimmie c..... sounds like a good crew to reeducate this guy ... SAD JUST VERY SAD ... YUP ...go hoyas play and practice hard ....and stay clean... not PERFECT ...but stay clean... ;D go hoyas ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by RDF on May 5, 2009 0:41:52 GMT -5
world Wide Wes delivered Tyrke Evans to memphis even after Evans was an accessory to murder. So John Wall is a boyscout in Calipari's eyes.
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Post by hifigator on May 5, 2009 10:15:35 GMT -5
I'm not going to turn the total blind eye just because Florida is in the mix for the kid, but let's be fair. The only reports I have seen so far are that he and a 16 or 17 year old girl were leaving the abandoned house. Not that it's any more "right," but there are literally hundreds of "urban outdoorsmen" sleeping in abandoned houses here in Gainesville. I can't think it's only a local phenomenon. And incidentally, if they are discovered, the vast majority of the time, they are just told to move along. Now maybe there is more to this, but as this particular article points out, there was no forced entry and nothing was missing. It looks to me like what quite a few of us 17 year old boys attempt to accomplish with the typical 16-17 year old female.
On a related note, Florida has apparently really cooled off on recruiting this kid. At first Florida was putting a lot of attention and focus on him, but the rumor mill now is that we aren't putting hardly any attention his direction, and purportedly, it's because of grades. I did read where he got a qualifying ACT score, but his core is still low, and will require a difficult summer load at the least to get eligible for next season.
Also, someone -- I think on this site -- said that he was already old enough to declare for the NBA draft if he wanted to. Can someone confirm that?
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Post by kghoya on May 5, 2009 10:27:05 GMT -5
" While not exactly a cut & dry example of recruiting being "steered" through either coach, GU experienced a scenario a few years back where an AAU coach (& the player, for that matter) wanted to go w/ the Hoyas, but the HS coach intervened, & said player went elsewhere.**
**(See Keith Bogans)morgan wootten strikes again
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 5, 2009 10:48:06 GMT -5
Wall is 19, but I think there's the issue of how you define a year out of high school.
If it was an abandoned house, seriously, why are people charging anyone these days for stuff like that?
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Post by hifigator on May 5, 2009 16:01:15 GMT -5
SF, I just heard an interview on the afternoon sports show with a journalist from the local North Carolina paper. I forget his name, but for what it's worth, he pretty much totally dismissed it. He likened it to getting a parking ticket. It's that negligible and once again, he reiterated that there was no sign of forced entry and nothing was missing or disturbed and there was no indication of vandalism or the sort.
As for "charging people," ... ah, I don't know. What constitutes "abandoned?" The fact that they mentioned that nothing was missing or disturbed, tells me that there was SOMETHING in there. So is it abandoned or empty? What's the difference? Obviously, a family being on vacation, isn't what I am talking about. But sometimes a tenant will move out unexpectedly. The house is uninhabited, but the landlord can't do anything until the legal proceedings of eviction have run their course. Othertimes, it is in the "process" of renovation between tenants, but the work hasn't actually begun. There are numerous other examples. I don't think we can simply dismiss such "minor crimes" as being acceptable, just because there aren't any people there at the moment. Still, I don't think this shows any major character issue, but once again, it certainly could show a lack of good judgment. Still, there are lots more serious things that he could be doing than hanging out with a girl who is within a year or 2 of his age.
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