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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 21, 2009 11:16:52 GMT -5
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 21, 2009 11:56:49 GMT -5
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Post by RDF on Apr 21, 2009 12:34:44 GMT -5
DFW, when Jerry Jones initially talked about seating--it was mentioned he was targeting 90-100,000 seats. Now I've heard it's going to top out around 65,000.
With him running the team--that place will be filled with opposing fans and more wine/cheese fans that Cowboys always had--minus the Jimmy Johnson Era--the only Era that truly backed up the hype of that organization.
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Post by hoya95 on Apr 21, 2009 12:46:32 GMT -5
Not sure if he's lowered his prices or not, and I doubt he has. But Jerry's Personal Seat Licence fees for all lower bowl tickets went like this:
Between the end zone and the 15 yard line: $15,000 per seat
Between the 15 and the 35 yard lines: $35,000 per seat
Between the 35 yard lines: $50,000 per seat
But don't worry, you can get a 30 year loan for it! In a normal economy, that's insane. I am really not sure how many lunatic millionaires there are in Dallas and New York now. We'll find out soon.
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Post by The Stig on Apr 21, 2009 13:49:06 GMT -5
The Nats game on TV last night had almost nobody there. ESPN says there were 12,000 (30% full), but most of them must have been disguised as empty seats.
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Post by mchoya on Apr 21, 2009 14:12:57 GMT -5
The Nats game on TV last night had almost nobody there. ESPN says there were 12,000 (30% full), but most of them must have been disguised as empty seats. If you know 12,000 people who would wait out a 2 hour rain delay on a Monday night to see the Nats, then you know a lot of people. |
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Post by FLHoya on Apr 21, 2009 14:18:59 GMT -5
The Nats game on TV last night had almost nobody there. ESPN says there were 12,000 (30% full), but most of them must have been disguised as empty seats. If you know 12,000 people who would wait out a 2 hour rain delay on a Monday night to see the Nats, then you know a lot of people. Yeeeeeeeeahhhh...one of those would be me. The only reasons I was there in the first place: 1. I'm a Braves fan 2. I already had the ticket 3. I have other commitments tonight and tomorrow, and the next series in DC is 4th of July weekend (decent chance I won't be in town) and then September. By the time of the first pitch, I'd put attendance at somewhere in the 2,000 range. It had a very college baseball feel to it, because the Braves and Nats fans clustered behind their teams' respective dugouts. Also, because both teams play really bad baseball these days. More and more these days, the only time I'm impressed with DC sports fans is when they're rooting for the other team. Guy I work with is a long-time Redskins club level season ticket holder whose...IDK, "contract", "license"  ...is coming up for renewal soon. He's seriously considering ditching the tickets, as I'm sure many are in this economy. But we got on the subject of the Cowboys stadium a couple months ago and looked at that diagram and had a good laugh. Did anybody ever buy Bernie Madoff's seats? |
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Post by HeartAttackHoya on Apr 22, 2009 14:26:14 GMT -5
not sure about other teams, but the Cowboy's PSL's have been a major success for Jerry. He sold most of those by xmas and most of the remaning non PSL seats are sold out for the year already. The PSL's can be financed for 30 years (@8 percent) which is the option many are taking.
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Post by hifigator on Apr 22, 2009 15:11:56 GMT -5
I have a general question for those of you in Major League markets. I always hear about how places like Wrigley and Fenway are always "sold out." But I also know that at many venues, all of the seats are "sold," but it's understood that for many non-marquee or at least conference foes, there will be tons of "no shows." In some cases, tickets are donated back to the Institution and distributed among Boys clubs or some other form of charity. Still other times, tickets are returned to the Institution and resold to those who missed out the first time around. My point is that except at really special matchups -- Florida vs. Georgia/SEC Championship Game or National Title games -- tickets are pretty much always available outside the gate for very little effort. And in most cases, a little bit of effort will get you one at least near face value, if not even less depending on the attractiveness of the game/weather and things like that.
Having never been to Fenway or Wrigley ... or Yankee stadium for that matter, how difficult are tickets to get outside the stadium for games like that? I would presume that Nationals tickets are available for almost any game by comparison, but was curious what your experiences have been with MLB matchups?
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Post by theexorcist on Apr 22, 2009 15:19:17 GMT -5
Every event has scalpers outside. Pay the price and you get in (or, if it's Florida-Georgia, swipe tickets from people as they stumble around through a hotel lobby avoiding stains which smell like whiskey). Depending on demand, you may pay much more than face or less.
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Post by Jack on Apr 22, 2009 15:51:33 GMT -5
Prior to this year, tickets for just about any Red Sox home game were extremely difficult to find for anything close to face value, with the only exception being situations like today, a hastily scheduled makeup game on a weekday afternoon. At my former law firm of about 400 employees, periodically someone would send out an email saying they could not use their tickets for a game (usually that night) and those tickets would be snapped up within seconds- if you did not reply to the email immediately you had no chance.
This year the market has slackened quite a bit- almost all tickets are sold and the sell-out streak remains intact, but you can find early season games around face value from Stubhub or other sources. Probably only around 10-15K actually made it to the game this afternoon. Even so, tickets for Sox-Yanks this Friday night were posted on email at my new firm, which is more like 100 employees, and I did not get them despite replying in under a minute to the email.
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Post by mchoya on Apr 22, 2009 16:12:36 GMT -5
Did anybody ever buy Bernie Madoff's seats? Yep, for far below the list price. |
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Post by Gold Hoya on Apr 22, 2009 17:25:06 GMT -5
Wrigley is fairly similar to Fenway, except we have about 7000 more seats, and the cold weather non-weekend games don't quite sell out (38k with ~41k capacity). Weekend games are similar to Fenway and Cards/Brewers/White Sox all generate the same effect as Red Sox - Yankees.
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Post by vcjack on Apr 22, 2009 17:43:57 GMT -5
The waiting list for season tickets at Lambau is like 60 years long but like everything tickets can be got for a price.
Or most people in Wisconsin do the sensible thing and watch the Pack with the warm comfort of chicken wings and 12 beers.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Apr 23, 2009 12:32:07 GMT -5
At the old Yankee stadium, you could ALWAYS get tickets outside or at the bowling alley bar before the game for some degree above face (or at a discount after the first inning). I imagine its the same at the new stadium, just a bit more expensive.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 28, 2009 22:52:05 GMT -5
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...is coming up for renewal soon. He's seriously considering ditching the tickets, as I'm sure many are in this economy. But we got on the subject of the Cowboys stadium a couple months ago and looked at that diagram and had a good laugh.
