alleninxis
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Post by alleninxis on Apr 13, 2009 18:45:56 GMT -5
has him on his updated transfer list community.foxsports.com/blogs/goodmanonfoxDo some folks not read the request on this board not to comment on transfers unless announced by GU? For the sake of a family that is considering a transfer, let them be the ones to communicate this, not a blog. There have been circumstances over the years where Georgetown players were all but gone in the press and chose not to do so, and others that were gone from the start that no one guessed, but we simply ask that people hold their fire until something is official and that source is GUHoyas.com. A blog does not qualify. If you have complaints or suggestions, PM me directly. I'll answer each and every one of you. --Admin
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Apr 13, 2009 18:54:09 GMT -5
Didn't need an inside source to see this one coming
Good luck Omar, perhaps you can get Wattaded elsewhere
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Apr 13, 2009 18:59:02 GMT -5
Does make you wonder what happened when a player is apparently willing to walk on initially and accepts a bench role coming out of high school, then transfers when that is exactly what he gets. There just isn't enough playing time for 13 scholarship players, but it is useful to have practice players who stick around and give their all (a la Tyler Crawford).
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swhoya
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Post by swhoya on Apr 13, 2009 19:10:17 GMT -5
There's been a lot of chatter about the "character" of our players, and I wonder if the nature of Gtown as an academic institution gives us an advantage other schools may not have. Namely, if you get solid players who recognize they won't be stars or won't be in the NBA, but still want a quality education AND have the chance to contribute for a high-caliber basketball program, Georgetown is a great place.
That being said, I'm not sure how to square that with the rash of tranfers the last few years (I suppose there's not a "rash" of transfers this year--fingers crossed). I think that for a lot of players who are really good in high school, they expect to be just as good in college. When they don't get that, they assume it's a problem with the program and look elsewhere (which raises another question--who is the last transfer you can name that was ultimately a stud). Perhaps they get more playing time elsewhere, but is that all they're looking for?
With Omar, I agree, it doesn't make sense to transfer for basketball reasons. Perhaps there's something else going on, and I wish him the best.
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Buckets
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Post by Buckets on Apr 13, 2009 19:26:26 GMT -5
Well I'm glad we got that one out in the open. Do we now get to open all the threads that were locked due to Omar transfer discussion? ;D
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seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Apr 13, 2009 19:35:54 GMT -5
Goodman also has us in his "Ten more to watch" just outside his Top 25. Can we talk about where OMar is going now? Anyone?
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hoyaboy1
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Apr 13, 2009 19:45:54 GMT -5
From the outside it's very hard to figure out Omar's thinking, for the reasons outlined by Jack above.
I wonder where he'll go - I'm not sure he is starting caliber at the decent mid-major level.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 13, 2009 19:48:45 GMT -5
If the thread that announces his destination isn't entitled
"(Insert School Name Here) gets WATTADED"
I'll be really disappointed.
On the serious tip, to me this shows that transfers are more or less completely inevitable. When we recruited Omar, it seemed pretty clear to me that we were deliberately reaching, going off the beaten path for a guy who was definitely under-the-radar in an attempt to grab a role player to fill out the bench who WOULDN'T TRANSFER. Wattad really didn't have other high major offers (maybe Vandy?) so jumping on the offer from us was a no-brainer. I honestly thought that the staff told him that they wanted him to be a 4 year guy, and told him that he might never get a ton of PT but he could be a part of a good team and get a great education free. And I thought Omar realized that doing that was better than tearing it up at East Tennessee State or Middle Tenn.
But clearly I was wrong. It would seem, at this point that the highly regarded kids who don't get a ton of PT are going to transfer (ie. Macklin), the mid-level/3 star guys who don't get a ton of PT are gonna transfer (ie. Thornton, Spann etc.) and the sleeper/reach kids who don't get a ton of PT are going to transfer (ie. Omar). Guys like Tyler who have enough ability to play at a mid or low major but who stick it out on the bench of a high major for 4 years seem to be the exception. Based on that, the logical course would seem to be just to recruit the 13 best guys you can find, and bid farewell to the ones that don't crack the rotation. I definitely think there is something to be said for less turnover and some Tyler Crawford 4 year types, but if a guy like Omar isn't willing to stick it out in that sort of situation, then how far down do we have to reach to get that type of guy?
Anyway, best of luck to Omar. I appreciate the effort he put in while here.
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