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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Oct 22, 2009 11:02:33 GMT -5
This World Series - the Septic Series - will be an absolute nightmare for this Mets fan, far outweighing the escapades of former GM Phillips and tax issues of Ron Darling. I simply can't win but hope the Phillies win because they are less intrinsically evil than the Yankees.
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Post by RDF on Oct 22, 2009 12:52:01 GMT -5
May I just add that Yankees still have to win 1 more game against Angels and as a Yankee fan who suffered in '04--albeit against a team that was better then Yankees that year, and with a Torre/Mattingly combo to hinder them, not going to mention WS until they actually get there.
Mets organization is resembling a picnic in Asbury Park right now. Hang in there Ambassador.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 22, 2009 12:58:39 GMT -5
Looks like my Padres are going to hire Jed Hoyer away from the Sox. This is one of those things that looks really good, but who the heck knows?
The Phillies are a really fun team. I am normally more or less incapable of rooting for teams in the post-season, but the Phillies' -- much like their '93 team -- just seem likeable.
The Yankees -- not so much. Rodriguez is almost impossible to like, of course, and everyone else SEEMS like they should be likeable -- Swisher, Jeter, Rivera, Damon, etc. But once the pinstripes go on, the fun seems to die.
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Post by guru on Oct 22, 2009 13:47:23 GMT -5
May I just add that Yankees still have to win 1 more game against Angels and as a Yankee fan who suffered in '04--albeit against a team that was better then Yankees that year, and with a Torre/Mattingly combo to hinder them, not going to mention WS until they actually get there. Mets organization is resembling a picnic in Asbury Park right now. Hang in there Ambassador. Hmmm, Yankees, Hoyas, Canes? Bandwagon much in the 80s/90s? Well at least you've stayed on the bandwagon.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 22, 2009 15:33:01 GMT -5
May I just add that Yankees still have to win 1 more game against Angels and as a Yankee fan who suffered in '04--albeit against a team that was better then Yankees that year, and with a Torre/Mattingly combo to hinder them, not going to mention WS until they actually get there. Mets organization is resembling a picnic in Asbury Park right now. Hang in there Ambassador. Hmmm, Yankees, Hoyas, Canes? Bandwagon much in the 80s/90s? Well at least you've stayed on the bandwagon. Aren't those the natural teams to root for when you're living in the upper Midwest? ;D
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Post by RDF on Oct 22, 2009 15:59:13 GMT -5
Yankees "glory days" certainly were not during my youth when I became a fan--the '80's were horrible, and liking Miami football/Georgetown basketball was for similar reasons--loved the different way they played and everyone else hated them. Nothing like being in sports arena and being hated or pulling for teams who others despise--it's just so fun.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 22, 2009 16:10:09 GMT -5
Yankees "glory days" certainly were not during my youth when I became a fan--the '80's were horrible, and liking Miami football/Georgetown basketball was for similar reasons--loved the different way they played and everyone else hated them. Nothing like being in sports arena and being hated or pulling for teams who others despise--it's just so fun. I agree that the Canes were the "bad boy," much like the Raiders have been. But I don't think there was much animosity towards Georgetown. In fact, as I recall, JT Jr and Patrick Ewing were sort of media darlings to a degree. They were generally likable and presented that way. Granted, success does breed contempt from your foes, but that happens to everyone. I don't think you can lump the Hoyas into the category of the Canes. As for the Yankees, they are just the baseball equivalent of what the Dallas Cowboys were -- "America's team!" Granted, there are still an awful lot of people who really hate the Yankees as well. Lastly, I think that Guru made a great point: Aren't those the natural teams to root for when you're living in the upper Midwest?
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Oct 22, 2009 16:26:30 GMT -5
Hifi - you are lost if you think of Pops as a media darling. That's worse than saying Tebow is hated by the media.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Oct 22, 2009 16:32:55 GMT -5
Yankees "glory days" certainly were not during my youth when I became a fan--the '80's were horrible, and liking Miami football/Georgetown basketball was for similar reasons--loved the different way they played and everyone else hated them. Nothing like being in sports arena and being hated or pulling for teams who others despise--it's just so fun. I agree that the Canes were the "bad boy," much like the Raiders have been. But I don't think there was much animosity towards Georgetown. In fact, as I recall, JT Jr and Patrick Ewing were sort of media darlings to a degree. They were generally likable and presented that way. Granted, success does breed contempt from your foes, but that happens to everyone. I don't think you can lump the Hoyas into the category of the Canes. [/i][/quote] You could not be more wrong. Please stop offering your inane and laughably inaccurate perspective on Georgetown hoops. You are a dimwit and have no educated basis to speak on such topics. here is just an example of the multitude of press GU received when JTIII became head coach comparing his team to the "hated" Hoya squads from the 80s. www.nypost.com/p/sports/hoya_habits_dying_hard_2fzzs5vSfpJWSlafHqRs2J
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Post by hifigator on Oct 22, 2009 16:41:23 GMT -5
Hifi - you are lost if you think of Pops as a media darling. That's worse than saying Tebow is hated by the media. That might be a bit of a strong term. But my point was that, at least from my recollection, GU and Thompson/Ewing etc... weren't cheated by their handling in the media. Given that I am "outside" of the Washington/Northeast region, I would think that my opinion is objective on the issue.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 22, 2009 16:48:22 GMT -5
I am not arguing with you, just saying that as an "outsider," unwarranted animosity didn't jump out at me. Of course, there is "hatred" between New York and Washington in this regard. But using St. Johns to "prove" some media bias against GU would be like using something from the Athens paper to illustrate a slight against Florida. Still, I'm guessing that you all have a point that I hadn't recognized or at least didn't give enough credibility.
Still, I think likening GU to the Canes in their "glory" years, or even the Yankees, just because of their huge following isn't really justified.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Oct 22, 2009 17:09:24 GMT -5
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Post by vcjack on Oct 22, 2009 21:21:58 GMT -5
Lackey may have been pulled juuuuuuuust a bit early...
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Post by kchoya on Oct 22, 2009 23:11:31 GMT -5
Lackey may have been pulled juuuuuuuust a bit early... AJ may have been pulled juuuuuuust a bit too late
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Oct 23, 2009 5:27:47 GMT -5
girardi strikes again!
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Post by hifigator on Oct 23, 2009 12:27:50 GMT -5
I have to admit that I was questioning walking ARod with 2 outs and nobody on. The "worst" he could do would be tie the game. I just don't think that a walk there was the right move. But it did ultimately "work out," but not without extended moments of intrepidation and feelings of consternation.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 23, 2009 12:36:25 GMT -5
Fair enough. "Most hated" is mentioned as a possibility. I still think that it was nothing more than a fallout from being successful though. That much happens with almost any team. But in any case, you have proved your point. Personally though, and from my own limited perspective, I never saw that. Duke has ALWAYS -- at least as long as I have been following hoops, had a resentful following among hoops fans. Although they get more than their fair share of positive media treatment. UNC to a lesser degree, is in the same boat. Kentucky's "glamour" has waned a bit in recent years, but not coincidentally, so has their success on the court. UNLV, Arkansas, Arizona etc... had their turn among the elite. Not surprisingly, the number of fans who actively dislike those teams coincided with their successful runs. That's all I am saying. The bottom line is that it's better for people to "hate" you. The alternative is far worse.
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Post by Elvado on Oct 23, 2009 13:05:16 GMT -5
This World Series - the Septic Series - will be an absolute nightmare for this Mets fan, far outweighing the escapades of former GM Phillips and tax issues of Ron Darling. I simply can't win but hope the Phillies win because they are less intrinsically evil than the Yankees. Short of both teams losing somehow, this is the ultimate no-win. But the Philadelphia Phestoons have turned this dyed-in-the-wool Mets fan into a Yankee fan with their particularly annoying cast of characters. Of course, the fact that I live within walking distance of citizens Bank park adds to my loathing. I hate both these teams passionately. However, if the Yankees win, I can simply ignore it. If the Phestoons win, the mouth-breathers will be parking in my neighborhood for another parade of drunken cretins.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 23, 2009 14:16:25 GMT -5
This World Series - the Septic Series - will be an absolute nightmare for this Mets fan, far outweighing the escapades of former GM Phillips and tax issues of Ron Darling. I simply can't win but hope the Phillies win because they are less intrinsically evil than the Yankees. Short of both teams losing somehow, this is the ultimate no-win. But the Philadelphia Phestoons have turned this dyed-in-the-wool Mets fan into a Yankee fan with their particularly annoying cast of characters. Of course, the fact that I live within walking distance of citizens Bank park adds to my loathing. I hate both these teams passionately. However, if the Yankees win, I can simply ignore it. If the Phestoons win, the mouth-breathers will be parking in my neighborhood for another parade of drunken cretins. Sounds like a great time to profiteer. Sell parking in your yard. Buy a cheap hot dog cart from Lowe's etc... If you don't like them, the least you can do is make some money off of them. Hell, ideally it will be a 7 game series where they lose. You get to maximize your additional income, but then don't have to deal with the parade. Of course, the parade could be another opportunity for easy money.
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Post by Elvado on Oct 23, 2009 14:20:08 GMT -5
If the universe is in proper order, the Yanks will dismantle them in four with the Game four ender happening about 4 hours after the Giants kick the crap out of the Seagulls at Stinkin Financial Field.
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