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Post by RDF on Oct 10, 2009 18:07:09 GMT -5
Guy is a big leaguer---if you get your hands on the ball--catch it. What a butcher!!! Holliday and Jorge Posada should form a support group. Posada makes Holiday look like Ozzie Smith with his hands. Jorge Posada is AWFUL as a defensive catcher and Girardi should be given full credit for passing him over for Molina--although I like Cervelli best out of the 3.
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Post by hoya95 on Oct 10, 2009 21:38:22 GMT -5
Can baseball do anything right? Tomorrow they are playing the Red Sox game at noon, then taking a 4 hour break, then playing the Yankees-Twins, and THEN playing Phillies-Rockies at 10pm in the East and 8 local. Um, hello?! No one's going to watch this game at midnight, and they could play the Rockies game at 2pm local after the Red Sox-Angels. And it's supposed to be in the 30's tomorrow night in Denver. Something tells me the locals might forgive the time change (and the night reschedule of Game 3 was only announced this morning) for daylight.
Does any other sport screw up the basics like this?
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 10, 2009 22:01:14 GMT -5
Can baseball do anything right? Tomorrow they are playing the Red Sox game at noon, then taking a 4 hour break, then playing the Yankees-Twins, and THEN playing Phillies-Rockies at 10pm in the East and 8 local. Um, hello?! No one's going to watch this game at midnight, and they could play the Rockies game at 2pm local after the Red Sox-Angels. And it's supposed to be in the 30's tomorrow night in Denver. Something tells me the locals might forgive the time change (and the night reschedule of Game 3 was only announced this morning) for daylight. Does any other sport screw up the basics like this? No. I'm 90% sure that the people that run baseball hate the sport and want it to die, b/c it just doesn't seem possible to me that anyone could be as stupid and short sighted as they are.
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Post by CO_Hoya on Oct 10, 2009 23:27:37 GMT -5
No one's going to watch this game at midnight, and they could play the Rockies game at 2pm local after the Red Sox-Angels. And it's supposed to be in the 30's tomorrow night in Denver. Something tells me the locals might forgive the time change (and the night reschedule of Game 3 was only announced this morning) for daylight. The Broncos play a home game at 2pm local tomorrow.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 11, 2009 10:15:49 GMT -5
Baseball needs a manager's challenge flag in the playoffs.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Oct 11, 2009 15:44:06 GMT -5
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Post by RDF on Oct 11, 2009 16:52:42 GMT -5
I've said it for years with regards to Posada--and have supported Boston for re-signing Varitek. They missed him handling the staff/game. People can say you have to make pitches.... but something to be said about a guy who controls the game behind the plate and pitchers love throwing too. Victor Martinez calling for a first ball fastball to Vlad was as ignorant as Posada calling for a 2-2 breaking ball to Nick Punto.
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Post by TC on Oct 11, 2009 18:23:41 GMT -5
What's Martinez supposed to do? Papelbon only has one pitch.
It's been clear all year that the best pitcher in the bullpen is Daniel Bard. He needs to be the closer next year - you can't rely on Papelbon, he just lets too many inherited runners score and has had too many heart attack saves this year, despite whatever his composite numbers say.
Today's game was the most depressing baseball game I've seen in person - I think the 1996 Big East Championship will forever be the worst game of any sport. I knew when they brought Papelbon in with 2nd and 3rd and two outs that he'd let them score, I didn't expect him to blow the game though.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 11, 2009 20:27:30 GMT -5
I've said it for years with regards to Posada--and have supported Boston for re-signing Varitek. They missed him handling the staff/game. People can say you have to make pitches.... but something to be said about a guy who controls the game behind the plate and pitchers love throwing too. Victor Martinez calling for a first ball fastball to Vlad was as ignorant as Posada calling for a 2-2 breaking ball to Nick Punto. It'd be nice if Posada and the Yankees pitchers could get on the same page so we didn't have to see a mound conference every time the Twins got someone on base.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 12, 2009 11:27:25 GMT -5
Game 4 of the Dodger-Cardinal series was scheduled for the gap time. I seriously doubt that any game time could be changed on such short notice. One might argue about which game was scheduled for which time, but with four games potentially on the slate, there had to be one game scheduled as a late game unless there was going to be overlap, and the leagues certainly didn't want that either.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 12, 2009 13:06:56 GMT -5
Yeah, but even if the Dodger game wasn't scheduled for that time, I don't think they would have rescheduled the Colorado game in that time slot because of the home Bronco football game. They could have slated it a bit earlier -- maybe around 8pm, but like you said, they really don't want to overlap. They're already competing against football. The last thing they would want to do is divide up their market by competing against another baseball game. Also, for the night owls like me, they actually picked up some overflow from after the football game.
Question: who was more of a goat this past weekend -- Matt Holiday or Jonathon Papelbon?
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Oct 12, 2009 13:25:57 GMT -5
Yeah, but even if the Dodger game wasn't scheduled for that time, I don't think they would have rescheduled the Colorado game in that time slot because of the home Bronco football game. They could have slated it a bit earlier -- maybe around 8pm, but like you said, they really don't want to overlap. They're already competing against football. The last thing they would want to do is divide up their market by competing against another baseball game. Also, for the night owls like me, they actually picked up some overflow from after the football game. Question: who was more of a goat this past weekend -- Matt Holiday or Jonathon Papelbon? Holiday by a factor of a billion. Papelbon pitched and the other guys hit it. That's baseball. Ask Mariano Rivera, he's been there. It doesn't seem to brand him a goat. Having the final out hit you in the cup? Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 12, 2009 14:58:59 GMT -5
Yeah, but even if the Dodger game wasn't scheduled for that time, I don't think they would have rescheduled the Colorado game in that time slot because of the home Bronco football game. They could have slated it a bit earlier -- maybe around 8pm, but like you said, they really don't want to overlap. They're already competing against football. The last thing they would want to do is divide up their market by competing against another baseball game. Also, for the night owls like me, they actually picked up some overflow from after the football game. Question: who was more of a goat this past weekend -- Matt Holiday or Jonathon Papelbon? Holiday by a factor of a billion. Papelbon pitched and the other guys hit it. That's baseball. Ask Mariano Rivera, he's been there. It doesn't seem to brand him a goat. Having the final out hit you in the cup? Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I wouldn't argue with you, but I do think you are cutting Papelbon a bit too much leeway. He comes in and gives up other pitchers runners. Then he has a 2 run lead in the ninth, only a strike away from ending it and sending the series to a 4th game. A walk, a hit, another walk and then another hit later ... That's a little bit more than "he pitched it and they hit it" don't you think? As for Holiday, what made it even worse was trying to blame the loss on those homerun towels the crowd had.
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Post by redskins12820 on Oct 12, 2009 16:30:17 GMT -5
Holiday by a factor of a billion. Papelbon pitched and the other guys hit it. That's baseball. Ask Mariano Rivera, he's been there. It doesn't seem to brand him a goat. Having the final out hit you in the cup? Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I wouldn't argue with you, but I do think you are cutting Papelbon a bit too much leeway. He comes in and gives up other pitchers runners. Then he has a 2 run lead in the ninth, only a strike away from ending it and sending the series to a 4th game. A walk, a hit, another walk and then another hit later ... That's a little bit more than "he pitched it and they hit it" don't you think? As for Holiday, what made it even worse was trying to blame the loss on those homerun towels the crowd had. Yeah especially since I doubt dodger fans were actually waving the towels with the Dodgers down to their last out, with no one on, on a pop-fly to left field. Holliday is determining what team he signs for in the offseason based on if they enforce a no white clothing policy
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Oct 13, 2009 5:24:12 GMT -5
the same thing happened to ibanez last night. not sure if it was the lights or the white towels but he clearly lost it also.
btw, could the twins be any more of a disaster on the bases? talk about little league, the base running blunders by gomez friday and punto sunday were inexcusable. i thought gardy's head was going to blow off.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 13, 2009 12:42:16 GMT -5
the same thing happened to ibanez last night. not sure if it was the lights or the white towels but he clearly lost it also. btw, could the twins be any more of a disaster on the bases? talk about little league, the base running blunders by gomez friday and punto sunday were inexcusable. i thought gardy's head was going to blow off. Don't believe the Mainstream Media's "Twins do the little things right" storyline. It's been a bunch of BS for a couple of years now. The Media just assume that since the Twins talk a lot about defense and doing things right and play a bunch of futility infielders that can't hit, that therefore they must win b/c they do things right. Well, they really don't. They f'up all the time. Honestly, the Twins win b/c they have 5 studs (Mauer, Span, Cuddyer, Kubel, Morneau) in their lineup who carry the entire offense, they have a stud closer (Nathan, and no comment on the playoffs bit) and they usually play in a mediocre division. Gomez is a headcase (but he plays good defense), but at least he's young. Punto can't bunt, and likes to dive into first base all the freaking time. He also can get way to aggressive on the bases. Delmon Young knows as much about "playing the right way" as your average little leaguer, and the various other utility infielders that get trotted out are all basically the same guy that can't hit, isn't that great at fielding and isn't anything special on the bases.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 13, 2009 14:29:31 GMT -5
Papelbon had given up a grand total of zero runs in 25 playoff appearances prior to his failure on Sunday. It happens to everyone, even the sainted Mariano. My only hope is that the result will cause JP to tone down his arrogance, but that probably won't occur.
What the first round lacked in long series it more than made up for in wild finishes.
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Post by tashoya on Oct 13, 2009 14:46:44 GMT -5
And, to clarify, Mariano has been labeled goat. Greatest Of All Time.
Papelbon or Bard... really wouldn't matter. The Angels are the better team. Nice to see Papelbon have to shut his trap for once though. Should be a really competitive series b/w the Angels and Yankees. And, to bite a bit from an earlier poster, the Angels often give the Yankees such fits because Posada is actually THAT bad as a defensive catcher. He's not Mike Piazza bad but he's flippin' bad. Don't even bring up blocking the plate....
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Post by hifigator on Oct 13, 2009 16:14:16 GMT -5
Hip-Hip ... Jorge!
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Oct 20, 2009 6:12:11 GMT -5
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