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Post by michaelgrahamfan on Mar 13, 2009 22:54:32 GMT -5
Just to throw more salt in the room, a team which we man handled during the early part of the season beats Wake Forest and are probably on to the dance. Is there anyone that we beat beyond Depaul that is not going to the Dance? We could easily have beaten 2 #1 seeds with Memphis, U Conn, I could hurl..... I can not imagine that anyone would rate us in the top 25 at the beginning of next season. Comments
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 13, 2009 23:23:39 GMT -5
Comments: you are brain-damaged and should seek medical attention ASAP.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Mar 13, 2009 23:40:16 GMT -5
Yeah we beat them early, but UMCP is a better TEAM than us. Say what you will but Gary took an average roster at best and turned them into a tourney team. We got swept by SJU and Cinci.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 13, 2009 23:47:31 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 14, 2009 9:24:01 GMT -5
Maryland is not better than us. If we face them in the NIT ( still a possibility) we will win. Maryland only won this game because wake didn't seem to care at all and played no defense. Wake was still clearly the better team. Hopefully enough other bubble teams can push maryland back out. I couldn't stand to have them make the NCAA's.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Mar 14, 2009 10:56:51 GMT -5
I hate MD like everyone else here, and I mean hate, but I don't see how anyone can say we're better than them RIGHT NOW. Were we better than them through 2008, yes. But look where each team is now, and who each team has beaten lately. We haven't had UNC and Wake type of wins for a few months now.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 14, 2009 11:03:14 GMT -5
Nova is just a big of win as Wake ( in terms of skill of teams) and their loss to virginia is just as bad as st. johns. Put us in the ACC we fare better than Maryland does. I still beleive we're a good team who ran into some bad luck and got into a mental funk. If wake played like they cared at all they would've killed maryland. Maryland looked terrible. they got open shots because wake played zero defense. Our defense has actually been good as of late so we'd be able to shut down maryland. they certainly had a better year in terms of results but in terms of actual basketball ability we're still better.
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Post by RDF on Mar 14, 2009 11:17:56 GMT -5
Duke is a "great team" record wise--and the Hoyas--#12 in BIG EAST--not the country played without their best player and almost rallied to win in Cameron Indoor.
My lack of respect for the ACC only grows more when I watch that league play.
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Post by FLHoya on Mar 14, 2009 11:39:59 GMT -5
Yeah we beat them early, but UMCP is a better TEAM than us. Say what you will but Gary took an average roster at best and turned them into a tourney team. We got swept by SJU and Cinci. This. Our seasons started to go in opposite directions starting in about late January. We were much better on the final day of the Old Spice Classic--I mean, I was at the game and shocked at how poor Maryland looked and how disengaged Gary looked. But if we played now? Maryland would prob. win 80% of the time...and this despite the fact that I still believe we match up well against the type of team that Maryland is. Maryland in the last few seasons is a funny team--it's almost as if they need to be backed against the wall to respond. No coincidence they seem to save their best efforts for home games against UNC and Duke, when they can psyche themselves up like it's a lame Under Armour commercial (see Gary Williams buffoonish pe-game crowd pumping in the UNC game). And weirdly enough, no coincidence IMO that UMD started turning things around almost immediately after the three-part series in the Washington Post about how/why Gary and the program were slacking. They're getting their motivation from somewhere...IDK if it's Gary any more...but something clearly clicked. That roster on paper is absolutely an NIT caliber team, but they peaked at the right time, got the wins they needed, and are at least even money right now for the NCAAs.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 14, 2009 12:10:21 GMT -5
honestly this appears to be JTIII's greatest weakness. He just doesn't seem to be able to light a fire under this team's ass. Maybe this was coach broadus' job in the past. He apparently tells his teams to match his intensity in games. So i'm assuming he's pretty intense.
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