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Post by gtown59270 on Mar 10, 2009 15:50:40 GMT -5
got to admit we are consistent
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 10, 2009 15:50:47 GMT -5
Nah no esherick revisionism...he sucked complete ass, don't get me wrong...but we were bringing in classes of Sead Dizdarevic and Ray Reed dude...no one had high hopes for those teams after the 2002 flameout with Sweets. Maybe 2002 is kinda like this year, but this team had SO MUCH individual talent and just couldn't get their SH!T together. Execution is definitely important, but unless this group is the dumbest set of players in Division 1, III failed miserably this year. So, yes, I am MORE disappointed in this season than in ANY of the esherick years, including Sweetney's junior season. I don't think that is revisionism and I don't think that is so hard to comprehend.
That is not the same as saying I wax nostalgic about the Esh Error...he sucked. terribly.
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Post by JWallsTreBalls on Mar 10, 2009 15:50:58 GMT -5
please this is worse than esh - at least then we knew what was coming. its the false hope that is the killer. new stretch goal for next year: make the tournament; if greg leaves new stretch goal: make the nit.
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 10, 2009 15:51:49 GMT -5
I've been a Georgetown fan since I first went to a game in 1985...I've never felt this way about a team before. Not even in the Esherick years. They disgust me. Really? Are you Editeding kidding me? What the hell is up with the Esherick revisionism on this board? Agreed. Total lack of perspective and short-term memory from many of the folks around here. We started the season knowing darn well it could be tough given the youth of the team and the loss of four seniors, two who started all four years and two who played significant roles both on and off the court. And those who are pining for the recent past and a former coach are either mentally challenged or the sick sad type of sports fans that are only truly happy when their team is losing and they can complain about it. I'm not disgusted with the team. I am disgusted with many of you.
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Post by DonkDonk on Mar 10, 2009 15:51:58 GMT -5
rickr, since you only have 14 posts, I'm sure your 30 years of season tickets will be meaningless in the eyes of some on this board.
I agree rickr - that was some bad coaching this year. Confusion, ugliness, no flow, poor defense, poor fundamentals, poor rebounding, no ability to get the ball to right people,
It's just amazing considering how aware and confident JTIII teams have been in the past.
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Post by the_way on Mar 10, 2009 15:53:23 GMT -5
Esh's 2002-2003 team is more talented and would beat this 2009 team. Who could handle Sweetney down low? Greg!! lol Samnick's defense. Bowman, Cook, Bethel, Riley. That group could play a little defense. They would beat this 2009 team by 10 points, at least.
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Post by geedell on Mar 10, 2009 15:53:54 GMT -5
Esherick's teams played hard.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 10, 2009 15:55:52 GMT -5
The team that's stepped out onto the court the last few months has looked like a Kenner League team. Talented, sure, capable of flashes in which individual talent shines through, but basically just a collection of individuals thrown together. It's as if they don't practice together but just all meet at the assigned time, put on the same colored jerseys, and go out to play a little ball. No coordination, no teamwork, no rhythm.
In the past, when the team has been doing well and executing III's script the way it's supposed to be, we've operated like a machine, with 5 cogs on the court spinning in unison. The bunch out there has been a disconnected jumble of parts, moving every which way.
I only pray that this experience has some pedagogical value, because it sure as hell has not had any entertainment value.
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Post by Bando on Mar 10, 2009 15:58:13 GMT -5
rickr, since you only have 14 posts, I'm sure your 30 years of season tickets will be meaningless in the eyes of some on this board. I agree rickr - that was some bad coaching this year. Confusion, ugliness, no flow, poor defense, poor fundamentals, poor rebounding, no ability to get the ball to right people, It's just amazing considering how aware and confident JTIII teams have been in the past. Yes, we're all terrible people because we don't take someone's word on the internet. In related news, I feel it's finally time to reveal my true identity to you all. I am Her Royal Highness, Queen Elizabeth II. Bow before me, peons.
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Post by Bando on Mar 10, 2009 15:58:34 GMT -5
Esherick's teams played hard. No they didn't. deleted .
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Post by Bando on Mar 10, 2009 15:59:22 GMT -5
Nah no esherick revisionism...he sucked complete ass, don't get me wrong...but we were bringing in classes of Sead Dizdarevic and Ray Reed dude...no one had high hopes for those teams after the 2002 flameout with Sweets. Maybe 2002 is kinda like this year, but this team had SO MUCH individual talent and just couldn't get their SH!T together. Execution is definitely important, but unless this group is the dumbest set of players in Division 1, III failed miserably this year. So, yes, I am MORE disappointed in this season than in ANY of the esherick years, including Sweetney's junior season. I don't think that is revisionism and I don't think that is so hard to comprehend. That is not the same as saying I wax nostalgic about the Esh Error...he sucked. terribly. Dude, if you prefer the Esherick years to now, it stands to reason that you prefer Esherick to JTIII. Have the balls to at least stand up for your crazy opinions.
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Post by rickr on Mar 10, 2009 16:00:11 GMT -5
What does it mean to you when a team gets worse over the course of a season? This is a team that does have talent...they played well early on especially aginst UConn and Cuse. They are now not confident and confused........the "system" didn't work with this group. You can't trade the players. How can good ballplayers not hit a "j" anymore. What had DJ turned into?
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Post by superan on Mar 10, 2009 16:01:04 GMT -5
Esherick's teams played hard. ROFLMAO. made my day.
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Post by Bando on Mar 10, 2009 16:06:12 GMT -5
So because you had higher expectations than the Esh years, you're more disappointed now than during school? Who, pray tell, gave you those higher expectations?
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 10, 2009 16:09:50 GMT -5
The team did, during their absolute THRASHING of UCONN in Hartford. Do you remember a win like that during Esherick's tenure?
If I raised my expectations, and in turn ratcheted up any potential disappointment down the line, because of the team's awesome start to the season, then i guess that makes me an irrational poser who relishes in my team's failure, right?
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Post by aja32 on Mar 10, 2009 16:15:42 GMT -5
it was a letdown. they looked promising early - hanging with TN even in our first loss, thrashing UMCP, stunning UCONN in Hartford, picking apart 'Cuse...and it was all downhill from there. JT III had, before this year, seen teams steadily improve as the season went on. This team fell apart somewhere, and now I just hope he can figure out how to put the pieces back together for next year. EDIT: I also want to add, this was an incredibly frustrating season for my senior year on campus. I know that those of you who struggled through the Esh era have no sympathy, but I'd been spoiled
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 10, 2009 16:18:01 GMT -5
So because you had higher expectations than the Esh years, you're more disappointed now than during school? Uh, no ? Your act is a getting tired. You do the same thing after every loss, and pretend that everyone who is upset or criticizes JTIII in any way is unjustified and an Esh-loving lunatic. We get it. Enough.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Mar 10, 2009 16:18:04 GMT -5
Even Rivers would be embarrassed by that shot. I know that Nikita shouldn't have been taking it, but seriously, at least get rim. I was hoping anyone but Summers, but in retrospect, it would have been nice to see one of his missiles graze the back iron...
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Post by kghoya on Mar 10, 2009 16:20:04 GMT -5
i dare them to raise season tickets next year
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 10, 2009 16:32:08 GMT -5
It's just amazing considering how aware and confident JTIII teams have been in the past. And that is why a lot of us don't understand why so many people seem to lay the blame 100% at Thompson and the players can do no wrong. When you are analyzing a change in results (from winning to losing), you don't start with what was the same between the two scenarios, you start with what was different. I'm not saying Thompson is blameless, but I'm not looking there first.
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