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Post by gtown59270 on Mar 5, 2009 16:50:15 GMT -5
Im agree with you to sleepy we have to win the BET to be in the dance
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Post by hoyafreakinsaxa on Mar 5, 2009 17:18:51 GMT -5
It's funny some of these teams will get higher seedings in the NCAA tournament than in their own conference tournament:
PREDICTED SEEDING:
1 Louisville 16-2 (predict win at WVU) 2 Pittsburgh 15-3 (beat UConn) 3 Connecticut 15-3 (lose at Pitt) 4 Villanova 13-5 (beat Providence) (Nova wins tiebraker with Marquette) 5 Marquette 13-5 (beat Cuse) 6 Providence 10-8 (lose at Nova) 7 Syracuse 10-8 (lose at Marquette) 8 West Virginia 10-8 (lose to Louisville) 9 Cincinnati 9-9 (beat Seton Hall) 10 Notre Dame 8-10 (beat St. John’s) 11 Georgetown 7-11 (beat DePaul) 12 Seton Hall 6-12 (lose at UC) (tiebraker? split series) 12 St. John's 6-12 (lose at ND) 14 South Florida 5-13 (win at Rutgers) 15 Rutgers 1-17 (lose to USF) 16 DePaul 0-18 (lose at GU) -------------- GAME 1: Georgetown vs. USF GAME 2: Georgetown vs. Providence GAME 3: Georgetown vs. UConn GAME 4: Georgetown vs. Pitt GAME 5: Georgetown vs. Louisville
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Post by westendhoya on Mar 5, 2009 17:23:54 GMT -5
If Seton Hall beats UC on sat I think out path would be St. Johns, Cuse, Villanova,
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Post by hoyafreakinsaxa on Mar 5, 2009 17:28:21 GMT -5
I think I'd rather have that. Go Seton Hall! We can beat those teams. Then just need Pitt to get knocked off by someone, and next thing you know we're in the finals.
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Post by pahoyafan1 on Mar 5, 2009 18:16:28 GMT -5
Wow, we would have to beat UConn, Pitt, and Lou in three days (assuming we got hot and won and they won Thurs. and Lou Fri). I wonder if a team that plays on Tuesday will ever win the BET because they are up against incredible odds (atleast this year). Anyway, we probably have as much talent on the floor as you will ever see on a Tuesday team. You would have to think that beating DePaul and winning four straight days (with two wins against two NCAA #1 seeds) would put us back in discusion. Not saying there is even a chance of it happening, but just the overall odds of even getting to Saturday.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 5, 2009 23:11:58 GMT -5
If Seton Hall beats UC on sat I think out path would be St. Johns, Cuse, Villanova, It would be SJU, Marquette (not Cuse), and Nova
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Post by hoyafreakinsaxa on Mar 5, 2009 23:37:39 GMT -5
PREDICTED SEEDING: LOCK = secured seeding
1 Louisville 16-2 (predict win at WVU) 2 Pittsburgh 15-3 (beat UConn) 3 Connecticut 15-3 (lose at Pitt) 4 Villanova 13-5 (LOCK) 5 Marquette 13-5 (beat Cuse) (LOCK) 6 Providence 10-8 7 Syracuse 10-8 (lose at Marquette) 8 West Virginia 10-8 (lose to Louisville) 9 Cincinnati 9-9 (beat Seton Hall) (LOCK) 10 Notre Dame 8-10 (beat St. John’s) 11 Georgetown 7-11 (beat DePaul) 12 Seton Hall 6-12 (lose at UC) (tiebraker? split series) 12 St. John's 6-12 (lose at ND) 14 South Florida 5-13 (win at Rutgers) (LOCK) 15 Rutgers 1-17 (lose to USF) (LOCK) 16 DePaul 0-18 (lose at GU) (LOCK) -------------- GAME 1: 11Georgetown vs. 14USF (win) GAME 2: 11Georgetown vs. 6Providence (win) GAME 3: 11Georgetown vs. 3UConn (win) GAME 4: 11Georgetown vs. 2Pitt (anything can happen) GAME 5: 11Georgetown vs. 1Louisville (win or lose, we're in the NCAA Tournament)
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 6, 2009 10:03:39 GMT -5
IMO, this is no way a done deal. Syracuse can definitely win at Marquette. They are very vulnerable right now, and Syr is playing well. WVU is capable of beating L'ville at home, esp. senior night, 9pm on Saturday. Seton Hall can beat Cincinnati, too.
My bet is that WVU ends up as the 6 seed with a win over Lvill, Marq squeaks by Syr, and Cincy squeaks by SH.
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Post by guru on Mar 6, 2009 10:05:53 GMT -5
If we see UConn in the tourney, we are toast. Looking at the way the top seeds fell, I don't see us having much of a shot at all to win 3 games - and that's only if we can actually win 2 in a row. Which we haven't done since Jan. 14.
We know what this team is by now - and it's definitely not one that can rattle off 5 wins in 5 days.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 6, 2009 10:21:25 GMT -5
Louisville toasted us on our home floor. Pitt toasted us on our home floor. UConn would have every incentive to crush us and redeem themselves. Can't get too excited about our chances - if we can even get it together enough to make it past Tuesday!
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 6, 2009 10:28:31 GMT -5
I agree that Cuse actually could beat MU, but being senior day and having so many significant seniors should help carry MU to an emotional win.
Our path is a dead end, period. It should be as an 11 seed. A win versus UConn is almost inconceivable with what I have seen from this team for the last 6 weeks. If we were to get to the Finals though, playing that schedule, we are in regardless of the UL outcome. We would have knocked off two #1 NCAA seeds that is how absurd this schedule is.
The only other thing that stands out is to see PU at 10-8 in the conference. On the surface that looks great, but that team is no where near the caliber of what a 10-8 team should represent this year in the BE. They are on the bubble right now and when the Hoyas beat them they will be out. Since we are not dancing I would love to ruin some other team's dreams. It sucks being alone in our misery.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Mar 6, 2009 10:37:29 GMT -5
The reason a trip to the BET finals would put us in is twofold: (1) we would have great computer numbers and more marquee wins than probably any bubble team, and (2) the bubble is really, really weak this year.
The only thing holding us back is our W-L record. We don't have any RPI 200+ losses, we have the marquee wins, we have the SOS, we have the RPI. We just don't have enough wins. Add 5 more wins to our resume to end the year (Depaul + 4 in BET), we're in. The NCAA selection committee criteria actually works in our favor this year quite a bit.
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Post by guru on Mar 6, 2009 10:43:07 GMT -5
I agree that Cuse actually could beat MU, but being senior day and having so many significant seniors should help carry MU to an emotional win. Our path is a dead end, period. It should be as an 11 seed. A win versus UConn is almost inconceivable with what I have seen from this team for the last 6 weeks. If we were to get to the Finals though, playing that schedule, we are in regardless of the UL outcome. We would have knocked off two #1 NCAA seeds that is how absurd this schedule is. The only other thing that stands out is to see PU at 10-8 in the conference. On the surface that looks great, but that team is no where near the caliber of what a 10-8 team should represent this year in the BE. They are on the bubble right now and when the Hoyas beat them they will be out. Since we are not dancing I would love to ruin some other team's dreams. It sucks being alone in our misery. Would like to beat PC too, but I wouldn't denigrate the BE record... they did exactly what we didn't - they beat the teams they should beat. And then they snuck in two upsets (Cuse, Pitt) and they end up at 10-8. Yes, we drew harder home-and-homes (Cuse, MU and Cincy for us, Cincy, Nova and Rutgers for them) but we simply didn't take care of business when we had to. The most frustrating thing about this season is that ONE win in any of the games we blew that we should have won (SHU, Cincy x2, SJU) would probably put us on the right side of the bubble. We have no business being in the NCAA Tournament this season.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 6, 2009 13:15:00 GMT -5
We snuck in two upsets in the BE (at Nova, at UConn). If we had beat who we needed to beat, we'd be 11-7. Ugh.
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Mar 6, 2009 14:50:55 GMT -5
There are a few reasons to hope the Hoyas finish 12th or 13th after they hopefully beat DePaul.
* 9:30 pm starts for the 11 seed game. 9:30 on a Tuesday night - brutal. Rather do the 2 pm. * Rather play the 5 seed in the second round than a 6 seed. Better potential win. * Rather - if the Hoyas show some poise - play the 4 seed in the third round than the 3 seed. Avoid the Pitt/Lousville/UConn trifecta.
No way Georgetown wins more than three in a row. The 12/13 strip offers the possibility for two winnable games against top 25 teams to pad the resume in the desperation heave for NCAA consideration. The 11 strip gets you a weaker win in the second round and a very tough game in the third round.
As some earlier posters have said, the Hoyas haven't shown they have what it takes in the last two months.
Maybe I just don't want to get home from a BET game at 1 am. Hoyas haven't had the last game there in a very long time.
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Post by royski on Mar 6, 2009 21:01:22 GMT -5
I think I'd rather have that. Go Seton Hall! We can beat those teams. Then just need Pitt to get knocked off by someone, and next thing you know we're in the finals. You'd prefer 3 games against teams we're 1-3 against as opposed to 3 teams we're 3-0 against? I'll take the 11 path, thank you very much.
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Post by bicentennial on Mar 6, 2009 23:09:01 GMT -5
Game against St. John's different with Austin, Game against Marquette different without James, Game against Nova better in Garden. Agree with hoping for 12/13 then 5 then 4 then Louisville with last game against Pitt who should be number 1 again if we lose to them. Yes I realize I am hallucinating to get through Louisville!
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 6, 2009 23:28:06 GMT -5
It's funny some of these teams will get higher seedings in the NCAA tournament than in their own conference tournament: PREDICTED SEEDING: 1 Louisville 16-2 (predict win at WVU) 2 Pittsburgh 15-3 (beat UConn) 3 Connecticut 15-3 (lose at Pitt) 4 Villanova 13-5 (beat Providence) (Nova wins tiebraker with Marquette) 5 Marquette 13-5 (beat Cuse) 6 Providence 10-8 (lose at Nova) 7 Syracuse 10-8 (lose at Marquette) 8 West Virginia 10-8 (lose to Louisville) 9 Cincinnati 9-9 (beat Seton Hall) 10 Notre Dame 8-10 (beat St. John’s) 11 Georgetown 7-11 (beat DePaul) 12 Seton Hall 6-12 (lose at UC) (tiebraker? split series) 12 St. John's 6-12 (lose at ND) 14 South Florida 5-13 (win at Rutgers) 15 Rutgers 1-17 (lose to USF) 16 DePaul 0-18 (lose at GU) -------------- GAME 1: Georgetown vs. USF GAME 2: Georgetown vs. Providence GAME 3: Georgetown vs. UConn GAME 4: Georgetown vs. Pitt GAME 5: Georgetown vs. Louisville With regard to the Seton Hall tiebraker where teams split a series... thee team with a win against the highest seeded team wins.
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Post by alleninxis on Mar 6, 2009 23:30:36 GMT -5
What I'm planning on...
First, a Hoya win
Pitt and Ville win tomorrow..
Cuse, WVU lose and they and PC all finish 10-8....with PC's win over Pitt they become the 6th seed.
Our route I believe then follows as; USF, Providence, Uconn...
I'd take that.
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Post by westendhoya on Mar 6, 2009 23:40:09 GMT -5
I am hoping for a Cuse win (yes) and a St. Johns, Marquete, Nova route
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