EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 17, 2009 9:34:08 GMT -5
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Post by 757hoyafan on Feb 17, 2009 10:01:45 GMT -5
CommentsBroadcaster wrote:
Answer is Gary Williams!!!
2/17/2009 8:49:12 AM
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dingus3 wrote:
How many National Championships does JT III have? How many Final Fours?
Enough said.
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BurgundyAndGold wrote:
Well, considering the way Georgetown's highly-recruited young guns (Austin Freeman, Chris Wright, Greg Monroe, et. al.) have fizzled over the last several games and the Sean Mosley/Landon Milbourne/Greivis Vasquez-led Terps have begun to find their sea legs...maybe Coach Williams?
Perhaps if Coach Thompson III yelled at his boys a bit, they wouldn't fade down the stretch after starting the year with a top-10 ranking.
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Post by the_way on Feb 17, 2009 10:03:38 GMT -5
I don't buy that at all.
Boheim and Calhoun and Pitino and Huggins, etc. scream at their players. And are intense. They don't have recruiting issues.
Heck, Pat Summit is notorious for screaming on her players constantly. And look how many games she has won, and great players she has recruited.
And don't let JTIII's 3 outward demeanor fool you. He is intense as well. And will discipline players. You don't hear about guys acting up on our team do you off the court since JTIII has been here, do you?
its just a philosophy in recruiting.
Gary likes to get guys that will stay all 4 years and develop. Usually that tended to be 2nd-tier type players. And it worked. He won a National title doing it that way.
The reason Gary's program slid is for 1 reason:
He went away from his winning formula, but going after more highly touted recruits (Garrison, Caner-Medley, Ghilcrhist, McCCray, etc.) and that class underachieved and set Gary's program back 2 years by not making it to the tournament their junior and senior years where they were clearly talented enough to do so. Once that class graduated, they made it back to the tournament the following year once, those bad apples left the program. Now he has gone back to his formula of recruiting.
But now he is playing catchup. By missing the tournament last year, those 2 years of not making in addition to last year has hurt his program. Gary just need to do it his way, and it works. Its not the AAU thing. Gary has been that way from day 1.
Everybody has their own philosophy on how to recruit and what type of players they go after. It can work both ways.
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Post by HealyHoya on Feb 17, 2009 12:57:13 GMT -5
Coach K screams his a$$ off, too. I enjoy watching UMCP struggle and there is no doubt that Georgetown's resurgence has played some role in increasingly the recruiting challenges faced by Williams year to year but UMCP will be back. The ACC always cycles through the second-tier team. It's always Dook and UNC, sometimes we add UMCP, sometimes Wake, sometimes Clemson, sometimes NC State, sometimes BC and so forth.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Feb 17, 2009 13:02:05 GMT -5
Coach K also stands up too fast and collapses into the fetal position on court.
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Post by HealyHoya on Feb 17, 2009 14:01:59 GMT -5
Coach K also stands up too fast and collapses into the fetal position on court. ;D |
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Post by Hoyaholic on Feb 17, 2009 21:20:34 GMT -5
Reading the article, my first reaction was actually empathy for GW. Here's a guy who, much like JTII, reached the pinnacle of his profession by doing things the "right way", but has been unable (or unwilling) to adapt as competition for coveted players grew more intense, and considerably more shady. I was thinking this again as I was watching the Terps get thumped by Clemson.
Then I got to thinking, wait a second, here's a man who has earned literally millions of dollars in his lifetime for running college basketball programs and coaching college basketball games. It seems a bit disingenuous for someone in his position to be outraged - OUTRAGED - that these same players have hangers-on who want a piece of the pie. A much, much smaller piece than Gary cuts for himself.
If GW is so disenchanted with the state of the big-time college hoops, then I am sure there is an NAIA school somewhere that would be happy to take all this pressure off his shoulders and pay him $65K a year to coach their team. He will impact just as many young lives, and he can focus exclusively on coaching.
It seems like every time this guy opens his mouth, it is to complain about how hard his life is because he is expected to perform for the taxpayer money he earns each year. Sorry Gary, you don't just get to sit back and collect residuals from 2002.
Does it suck that schools like K-State are willing to hire a coach for 3x his market value to secure a 1-and-done player? Sure it does. But is it wrong? I am not so sure it's any more wrong than GW (or JTIII for that matter) getting six figures from Nike.
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