bowhoya
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Post by bowhoya on Feb 1, 2009 2:07:53 GMT -5
All of you relax! The team will get it together by the end of the season! As you can see by all of the "so call" upsets this basketball season, anybody can beat anybody, at any time. Trust me, Louisville and Marquette are not that good.
In the Big East Tournament, the Hoyas can easily make up for lost time. All they need to do is put a 4-game winning streak together in the BET and they will be Conference Tournament Champs! This will be something they did not accomplish last year. That's the good thing about NCAA basketball. There is always a chance to turn things around. If the Hoyas win in the end, nobody will remember the mid season slump.
Remember, you heard it here first! You can congratulate me in March...
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Post by arlingtonhoya05 on Feb 1, 2009 2:45:10 GMT -5
I'm not saying we don't have the ability to win the Big East Tourney, but saying that Louisville and Marquette are "not that good" could not be any further off base...
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Feb 1, 2009 8:56:51 GMT -5
If MU and UL are not good, then nobody is good. That could be your take, seems like many people have it - no one is good in college basketball. Every year people say it and yet they still keep awarding championships to team.
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Feb 1, 2009 9:32:33 GMT -5
All of you relax! The team will get it together by the end of the season! As you can see by all of the "so call" upsets this basketball season, anybody can beat anybody, at any time. Trust me, Louisville and Marquette are not that good. In the Big East Tournament, the Hoyas can easily make up for lost time. All they need to do is put a 4-game winning streak together in the BET and they will be Conference Tournament Champs! This will be something they did not accomplish last year. That's the good thing about NCAA basketball. There is always a chance to turn things around. If the Hoyas win in the end, nobody will remember the mid season slump. Remember, you heard it here first! You can congratulate me in March... Except you're wrong. At the rate the Hoyas are playing, they would need to win FIVE games to win the Big East Tournament. Teams placing 9-16 play on Tuesday this year. Thanks for playing, but next time before you say "trust me" and lecture us you should probably get your facts straight first.
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Post by bicentennial on Feb 1, 2009 10:23:08 GMT -5
I could not agree more! The hoyas have played through their gauntlet and have come out badly but not terribly. All their remaining top tier games are at home and they have 2 middle tier games on the road at Syracuse and Villanova. While wins and losses are important so is who you beat and lose to. Georgetown has good wins and 2 bad losses. Marquette was not a bad loss. Sagarin, Pomeroy and RPI all agree that Georgetown has played a harder schedule than anyone else in the Big East at this point. Only South Florida and West Virginia have played through the hard parts of their schedules. While it is now true that Georgetown will not be a top 4 team in the Big East, I still believe it likely that they will be at or better than their predicted 7th place. With the exception of 5 minutes near the middle of the 2nd half, Georgetown played with Marquette. With the exception of the Pittsburgh game, Georgetown has always been within striking distance with 5 minutes to go. A little better defense and consistency on offense may be all that is needed and the Hoyas have 1 1/2 months to get that done.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 1, 2009 11:06:20 GMT -5
"A little better defense"? Good lord, what games have you been watching. We need to make huge strides in our defense to have any chance whatsoever of playing past Wednesday in NYC, much less getting to Friday or Saturday.
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HealyHoya
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Post by HealyHoya on Feb 1, 2009 11:38:56 GMT -5
And let's keep in mind that as we improve over the course of the season (IF we improve), so too do all of the other teams in the BE.
'Cuse is and will be much better than when we played them the first time.
UConn has become one of the premiere teams in the country and is playing much better.
UL is far better now than they were a month ago and, I suspect, will be one of the top 6-7 teams in the nation come Tourny time.
Pitt has improved as Ayers and their freshman have gotten into the flow.
While other top-tier BE teams have shown improvement on the court, we're hoping our team improves.
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joey0403p
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Post by joey0403p on Feb 1, 2009 11:44:48 GMT -5
we aren't going to be able to just "turn things on" in the BE tourney. we needs to start improving dramatically.
that was the most depressing part of today i think. we shot the ball SOOO well and still lost. oh well.
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WVHoyasfan
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Post by WVHoyasfan on Feb 1, 2009 23:22:24 GMT -5
All of you relax! The team will get it together by the end of the season! As you can see by all of the "so call" upsets this basketball season, anybody can beat anybody, at any time. Trust me, Louisville and Marquette are not that good. In the Big East Tournament, the Hoyas can easily make up for lost time. All they need to do is put a 4-game winning streak together in the BET and they will be Conference Tournament Champs! This will be something they did not accomplish last year. That's the good thing about NCAA basketball. There is always a chance to turn things around. If the Hoyas win in the end, nobody will remember the mid season slump. Remember, you heard it here first! You can congratulate me in March... I disagree with you man! Marquette and Louisville are great teams and will finish in the top three in the BE.There is no way that the Hoyas will win the BE tournament exspecially if they keep playing like they're now.I hope you are right but I honestly don't see this happening.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 2, 2009 14:06:25 GMT -5
As hoyatables pointed out, we could be talking 5 games, not 4. And of course, other teams could make the same point. Why, if Seton Hall and Cincinnati get hot (to pick two teams that beat us), they could win the BET. Why is our winning it any more likely than either of those teams winning it (yeah, I know, they are both lousy - but they still beat us).
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Post by Hoya TMF on Feb 2, 2009 14:35:21 GMT -5
I can't agree with the argument that Louisivlle is not good. It's ridiculous. They have beaten all comers in the Big East including Pitt, Syracuse and ND. Its hard to argue that Marquette is not good, but they still have not played the best teams in this league. Their best wins are against slumping ND and our slumping Hoyas. But I think the original poster just means that we can take solace in knowing that our squad has and still can beat really good teams.
Its not like we are completely overmatched agaisnt the top of the conference, which could be said of the bottom four in our league (our SHU loss notwithstanding). I think maybe the original poster was just trying to get some of us off the ledge. This team has lots of talent. I think its harder to make bad players more talented, than to get talneted players to work hard. Hopefully JTIII can get our talented team to play harder and smarter than it has been over the month of January. If that happens, then we could certainly make a run in the BET.
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