theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Jan 11, 2009 23:15:14 GMT -5
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Jan 11, 2009 23:47:30 GMT -5
How many first place votes will they get tomorrow?
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Jan 12, 2009 1:20:18 GMT -5
They dont' play defense and the "greatest shooter of all time" misses a lot of shots--and has no purpose when he's not shooting well--aka Wayne Ellington. I know--UNC doesn't lose, they just miss shots.  |
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 12, 2009 9:29:54 GMT -5
They dont' play defense and the "greatest shooter of all time" misses a lot of shots--and has no purpose when he's not shooting well--aka Wayne Ellington. I know--UNC doesn't lose, they just miss shots. I know it's piling on after the point, but I never got that UNC was that talented. Deep? Sure. Having Ginyard, Ed Davis, Bobby Frasor, etc. as a second team is fantastic. But like RDF with Ellington, much of their starting cast (minus Handbrough's heart and Lawson), I think is good but hardly insurmountable. |
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Jan 12, 2009 13:11:29 GMT -5
They dont' play defense and the "greatest shooter of all time" misses a lot of shots--and has no purpose when he's not shooting well--aka Wayne Ellington. I know--UNC doesn't lose, they just miss shots. I know it's piling on after the point, but I never got that UNC was that talented. Deep? Sure. Having Ginyard, Ed Davis, Bobby Frasor, etc. as a second team is fantastic. But like RDF with Ellington, much of their starting cast (minus Handbrough's heart and Lawson), I think is good but hardly insurmountable. They are a talented offensive team. They choose to not play defense and just want to outscore everyone. That doesn't win championships. If they want to win a title--they will have to stop opposing teams and get tougher. My problem with them/their style of play--when games get tough--their "Stars" aside from Hansbrough go AWOL. I actually like Danny Green's improvement the most on their team--and think Ellington and Lawson are highly overrated as players. Lawson's speed is only used on one end of court--he should be a great defender but he sucks. Ellington is one of the more overrated players I've encountered. He does what outside of shooting--which isn't so superior it covers his lack of other facets? I know though--Marcus Ginyard is hurt and he's seen as their entire defense--heard it the past 2 years. This is still a team who will be in Sweet 16--due to UNC invitational--but beyond that depends on their ability to buy into playing defense/team defense-which they have to prove on court--not in media. |
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jan 12, 2009 16:07:00 GMT -5
guy at the office thinks ty lawson is a better college player than jason (jay) williams of duke
its not an argument i really want to get into - mainly because i dont care for the acc that much
but i just dont understand where he is coming from other than being a tarheel fan
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Post by bbb71 on Jan 12, 2009 18:26:52 GMT -5
I think a credible argument could be made that J. Williams is the best college player this decade.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 12, 2009 19:39:54 GMT -5
guy at the office thinks ty lawson is a better college player than jason (jay) williams of duke its not an argument i really want to get into - mainly because i dont care for the acc that much but i just dont understand where he is coming from other than being a tarheel fan To quote Mike Tyson, that's ludicrisp. And Wayne Ellington is better than Reggie Williams. |
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