hoyas2006
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Post by hoyas2006 on Jan 5, 2009 21:01:17 GMT -5
has been awful from the field the last 2 games.
it seems like the only way we can win if ALL 5 starters avg. double figures for the game
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Jan 5, 2009 21:02:42 GMT -5
I think Chris Wright is the telltale on this team. When he plays well, we play well, and we usually win. When he plays bad, we get games like the past two.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 5, 2009 21:03:14 GMT -5
stop...the whole team has been lackluster in the last two games.....if we play bad we lose. Shocker. We can point to any one of our players in the last two games and say they could have been better. disappointing loss
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OldHoyafan
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Post by OldHoyafan on Jan 5, 2009 21:04:20 GMT -5
You can add Freeman to that list. Wright can beat you in other ways than scoring 3s. If Freeman is not getting you the 3 he is not going to take over down low because he is too short. Notice how much time he sat on the pine in 2nd half.
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Post by fsohoya on Jan 5, 2009 21:04:21 GMT -5
For those prepared to declare him superior to J Wall, there is one thing J Wall did a lot better: Make decisions! Hopefully that will come, but Wright makes way to many bad or late decisions, especially in transition.
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tal1286
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Post by tal1286 on Jan 5, 2009 21:06:03 GMT -5
For those prepared to declare him superior to J Wall, there is one thing J Wall did a lot better: Make decisions! Hopefully that will come, but Wright makes way to many bad or late decisions, especially in transition. agreed, he needs to slow down in transition. same with jesse, I think, at times.
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Jan 5, 2009 21:06:11 GMT -5
Give me a break on the decision-making. Wright's decision-making had nothing to do with the Hoyas' terrible shooting and lackluster D, which are what cost them the game.
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Post by fsohoya on Jan 5, 2009 21:06:38 GMT -5
Wright is definitely not the whole reason we lost -- not even close -- but his decision-making has been a problem all season. I think our biggest flaws have been inconsistent shooting, rebounding woes, a lack of fire, and several bad choices. I think we also got shafted on a few calls when we were surging late, but it never should have come to a late run so that's no excuse.
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adm1hoya
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Post by adm1hoya on Jan 5, 2009 21:06:44 GMT -5
Austin and Jessie are playing with much less confidence. When and if they come around (along with Chris to a lesser degree) we will be o.k..
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 5, 2009 21:07:23 GMT -5
You can add Freeman to that list. Wright can beat you in other ways than scoring 3s. If Freeman is not getting you the 3 he is not going to take over down low because he is too short. Notice how much time he sat on the pine in 2nd half. freeman is an extremely effective slasher and getting to the rim. This evaluation really sells austin's game short. We played bad as a TEAM today. No one player is to blame. We need to rest and come out and kick the sh** out of Providence
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Post by fsohoya on Jan 5, 2009 21:07:56 GMT -5
Wright's decision-making has been poor and needs to improve, and it is a fair point to make in a thread about him. But again, that is not close to the whole reason we lost.
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adm1hoya
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Post by adm1hoya on Jan 5, 2009 21:10:23 GMT -5
Wright is definitely not the whole reason we lost -- not even close -- but his decision-making has been a problem all season. I think our biggest flaws have been inconsistent shooting, rebounding woes, a lack of fire, and several bad choices. I think we also got shafted on a few calls when we were surging late, but it never should have come to a late run so that's no excuse. You can also add Jason's inability to hit and open DS on the two on one break. You can see DS very upset with Jason for not finding him for the easy bucket. We were only down 7 i believe when that play occurred.
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Post by fsohoya on Jan 5, 2009 21:10:31 GMT -5
HoyasAreHungry hints at another good point: we were playing a good team on the road, so this is hardly the end of the world. Hopefully we learn from it and crush the only definite should-win we've got in this opening of the BE season (to include the Duke game): Providence.
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OldHoyafan
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Post by OldHoyafan on Jan 5, 2009 21:14:54 GMT -5
You can add Freeman to that list. Wright can beat you in other ways than scoring 3s. If Freeman is not getting you the 3 he is not going to take over down low because he is too short. Notice how much time he sat on the pine in 2nd half. freeman is an extremely effective slasher and getting to the rim. This evaluation really sells austin's game short. We played bad as a TEAM today. No one player is to blame. We need to rest and come out and kick the sh** out of Providence I am not putting this loss on the back of Freeman I said add him to the list of who did not have a good game. Freeman is not fast enough to be called a slasher. He is a heady player who should be playing 2 guard but will hold his own against everyone else the rest of the way except Louisville and Syracuse. He has to be a consistant 3pt shooter for the Hoyas to be effective.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Jan 5, 2009 21:16:52 GMT -5
Personally I think Wrights decision making has been fine all season. Perfect? No, but certainly not the worst on the team. Personally, I get sick of people comparing Wright and Wallace, totally different players. But if you are going to crucify Wright, than give me a break with this Wallace decision making stuff. He made plenty of bad decisions his time here at Gtown, and took plenty of bad shots, but because he didn't have many turnover and a good shooting percentage everyone acts as if he was the pillar of decision making. Yes, he played it safe, but sometimes playing it safe isn't always the best decision. Yes we was probably better at making decisions than Chris, but the gap isn't as wide as many here are making it out to be.
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Post by fsohoya on Jan 5, 2009 21:22:23 GMT -5
I bring up Wallace because in a post-UConn thread over-exuberant fans were quick to say how great it was that we finally had a decent point guard. The reality is Wright often makes bad or late decisions on fast breaks, but pointing thar out in no way "crucifies" him. It just points out that he has stuff to work on, just like everyone else.
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AltoSaxa
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Post by AltoSaxa on Jan 5, 2009 21:25:27 GMT -5
I agree. No one complained when Chris slashed to the basket and threw his body into the paint versus Memphis. Not only does Chris have to run the point and look for the outside shot he also adds the dimension of dribble-drive and pushing the fast break with him often being the finisher ... Jon didn't have this added responsibility because this was not a facet of his game.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Jan 5, 2009 21:25:27 GMT -5
Wright's decision making has been fine. He's just not making shots. once that comes, he'll be fine. I can think of three great passes that he made in transition that falls into the "decision" making category.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Jan 5, 2009 21:27:21 GMT -5
Wright's decision making has been fine. He's just not making shots. once that comes, he'll be fine. I can think of three great passes that he made in transition that falls into the "decision" making category. Exactly, what bad decisions did he make today? I am sure there were one or two I am not remember, but this is a horrible game to use as an example.
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Jan 5, 2009 21:27:38 GMT -5
Wright has one problem right now. He can't find the basket. It's that simple.
Also Austin...wow. Someone said in the bench thread "Wattad is only 4-24 from 3 outside of Tennessee."
Well Austin might be even worse right now. He's 7-32 outside of, wait for it, Florida International. Yikes. And it's not the shooting anymore, it's his confidence in taking those shots that is killing us.
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