TC
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Post by TC on Dec 18, 2008 21:32:40 GMT -5
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njhoya06
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Post by njhoya06 on Dec 19, 2008 1:31:34 GMT -5
Nate Silver is normally quite sharp, but I don't understand the comparison between the two ballots. The Favre write in is for President, the Lizard People one is in the Senate section. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison.
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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 19, 2008 10:34:51 GMT -5
This is a travesty. We all know that if ballots were REALLY counted correctly, Lizard People would run away with this thing. But it's ok. He has higher aspirations for 4-years from now.
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Bando
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Post by Bando on Dec 19, 2008 13:09:02 GMT -5
I, for one, welcome our new lizard people overlords.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Dec 19, 2008 13:20:57 GMT -5
I, for one, welcome our new lizard people overlords. can rule me any time she wants. |
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Bando
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Post by Bando on Dec 23, 2008 0:37:09 GMT -5
I, for one, welcome our new lizard people overlords. can rule me any time she wants. C'mon man, I was totally setting you up for "typical liberal surrender talk". Have you gone soft in your old age, Boz?  |
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Dec 23, 2008 8:42:09 GMT -5
Too easy, my friend. Too easy.
I do hear that the favored food of the Lizard People is the Surrender Monkey, however.
(cheese eating optional)
;D
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Bando
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Post by Bando on Jan 7, 2009 13:22:13 GMT -5
Just wanted to post my thoughts on the Coleman-Franken election:
It's become clear that our current systems cannot really handle a situation where the margin of error inherent in vote counting is greater than the margin of victory. Since we, being human, cannot possibly create a vote counting system with no error, it's best to try to avoid such a situation all together. Either instant runoff voting (where voters rank their choices) or a 50% threshold are ways to do this. Discuss.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 7, 2009 13:51:13 GMT -5
Just wanted to post my thoughts on the Coleman-Franken election: It's become clear that our current systems cannot really handle a situation where the margin of error inherent in vote counting is greater than the margin of victory. Since we, being human, cannot possibly create a vote counting system with no error, it's best to try to avoid such a situation all together. Either instant runoff voting (where voters rank their choices) or a 50% threshold are ways to do this. Discuss. The 50% threshold, while an improvement, doesn't completely eliminate the risk of a Coleman/Franken situation when there are only 2 candidates on the ballot. Can you further explain instant runoff voting? |
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Bando
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Post by Bando on Jan 7, 2009 14:28:01 GMT -5
Just wanted to post my thoughts on the Coleman-Franken election: It's become clear that our current systems cannot really handle a situation where the margin of error inherent in vote counting is greater than the margin of victory. Since we, being human, cannot possibly create a vote counting system with no error, it's best to try to avoid such a situation all together. Either instant runoff voting (where voters rank their choices) or a 50% threshold are ways to do this. Discuss. The 50% threshold, while an improvement, doesn't completely eliminate the risk of a Coleman/Franken situation when there are only 2 candidates on the ballot. Can you further explain instant runoff voting? Actually, the independent candidate Dean Barkley took a good share of the vote. Instant runoff for the Minnesota race would look like this. You'd get a ballot listing all the candidates for Senate, and you'd be asked to put a number after each candidate's name corresponding to your order of preference. So if you were a Franken voter, your ballot would probably look like this: 1. Franken 2. Barkley 3. Coleman In the first counting, only the #1 preferences are tallied, and the results are thus: Franken 40% Coleman 35% Barkley 25% In this situation, you'd drop the lowest vote-getter (Barkley) and immediately have a runoff. Instead of re-voting, however, you'd simply go to the #2 preference on all those Barkley ballots. In the case of multiple candidates, this would keep happening until someone reached 50% (or whatever threshold was decided on). |
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