MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 29, 2009 17:47:12 GMT -5
I still probably have the old threads from Duke websites on a disc somewhere. For real? Yeah. For real. Well, I think so. Somewhere on a backup disk I made of my files and documents in case of a crash. At the time I saved a couple of the hilarious threads on the Duke message boards regarding Monroe's decision so I threw them on the disk as well. History, baby.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 29, 2009 18:30:53 GMT -5
I can't wait their threads will be hilarious again if roscoe decides to go somewhere other than duke. Some of them seriously don't think there's any reason for elite recruits to want to go to Georgetown.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 29, 2009 19:27:46 GMT -5
C'mon guys, if we ban shf, where else will we get verbatim regurgitation of the Duke premium boards written as if he talks to the Duke staff and the recruits personally?
I wonder if K is going to go to the "angelic eyes" recruiting technique again.
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Post by shf9 on Nov 29, 2009 22:12:20 GMT -5
Look troll, you were gags or whatever on this board talking trash and you are still Gags1288 or whatever on the duke boards. You are only fooling yourself. HSB, called you out a long time ago, and the same retarded logic about your "bigs" is being spewed. i'm not going to bite on this other than to say that 1) i'm not gags. you won't find me on either scout or rivals, and 2) by an objective definition you set forth, whether it be all-american awards, all-conference awards, draft position, or anything else other than what YOUR eyes perceive subjectively, duke's big men over the past 10 years stack up against just about any major program's. simply put, you cannot provide any hard facts, that is to say anything besides your own opinion, that supports your thesis. your next move, of course, is to throw out the career stats for a player like Nick Horvath or Brian Zoubek, or say that Duke big men are really power forwards (whatever that means), which is boring, unoriginal and uninformed. as for Jeff Green, he is introduced every night as Oklahoma City's starting power forward, which may have something to do with the confusion as to whether or not he is a swingman. i'm out for tonight, fellas. as always, it's been a pleasure.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 29, 2009 22:19:44 GMT -5
The only reason why there is confusion as to Green is because there is an apparent effort to make a basketball judgment on the basis of some tooty-fruity lineup introduction. Nobody here can debate something like that since it is so manifestly garbage.
If we're going to debate Duke big men, I'll need some smelling salts handy since there is so much manure. Off the top of my head, I'm taking KU and UCONN (Boone, Villanueva, Okafor, Thabeet, Armstrong, et al.) bigs ahead of Duke bigs any day of the week and twice on Sunday over the last 10 years. If you think Jeff Green is a big, I'm taking GU too with Hibbert and Mike Sweetney, among others, and Mike spent most of his NBA career at the Sizzler, unfortunately.*
Finally, are you related to the poster on here named hifigator?
*More information about our bigs is available in Springfield, MA.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 29, 2009 23:28:40 GMT -5
Look troll, you were gags or whatever on this board talking trash and you are still Gags1288 or whatever on the duke boards. You are only fooling yourself. HSB, called you out a long time ago, and the same retarded logic about your "bigs" is being spewed. i'm not going to bite on this other than to say that 1) i'm not gags. you won't find me on either scout or rivals, and 2) by an objective definition you set forth, whether it be all-american awards, all-conference awards, draft position, or anything else other than what YOUR eyes perceive subjectively, duke's big men over the past 10 years stack up against just about any major program's. simply put, you cannot provide any hard facts, that is to say anything besides your own opinion, that supports your thesis. your next move, of course, is to throw out the career stats for a player like Nick Horvath or Brian Zoubek, or say that Duke big men are really power forwards (whatever that means), which is boring, unoriginal and uninformed. I notice you left out NBA success as a way to measure big men. Coincidence? I think not.
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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 29, 2009 23:35:47 GMT -5
i'm out for tonight, fellas. as always, it's been a pleasure. No it hasn't.
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royski
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Post by royski on Nov 29, 2009 23:51:56 GMT -5
I dunno, I have a good feeling about landing Roscoe. No inside info, just the subliminal effects of reading recruiting threads for years and seeing who we eventually land.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Nov 30, 2009 0:20:55 GMT -5
I dunno, I have a good feeling about landing Roscoe. No inside info, just the subliminal effects of reading recruiting threads for years and seeing who we eventually land. Yes times 10.
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Post by harwoodhoya on Nov 30, 2009 9:51:54 GMT -5
If we dont get him, whats our backup option?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 30, 2009 9:59:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure there is one that the public is generally aware of. I do believe we will use a 3rd scholarship even if roscoe doesn't pick us. I trust the staff to go out and find a solid spring signing. Someone like Vee, off the radar but clearly very talented.
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Post by shf9 on Nov 30, 2009 14:26:23 GMT -5
i'm not going to bite on this other than to say that 1) i'm not gags. you won't find me on either scout or rivals, and 2) by an objective definition you set forth, whether it be all-american awards, all-conference awards, draft position, or anything else other than what YOUR eyes perceive subjectively, duke's big men over the past 10 years stack up against just about any major program's. simply put, you cannot provide any hard facts, that is to say anything besides your own opinion, that supports your thesis. your next move, of course, is to throw out the career stats for a player like Nick Horvath or Brian Zoubek, or say that Duke big men are really power forwards (whatever that means), which is boring, unoriginal and uninformed. I notice you left out NBA success as a way to measure big men. Coincidence? I think not. it's not a coincidence, because Duke's obligation to a player's development ends when that player is drafted. Duke's job is to make sure that player gets drafted as highly as possible; what he does with his NBA career has no bearing on Duke's development of said player. if you'd like to take a look at average or total salaries, however, i'm confident you'll find Duke's big men to be near the top of that list as well. i'd certainly give UConn the edge in big man development over Duke, though not Kansas because they have had two different coaches over the time period discussed, one of whom has a comparable record and the other who really doesn't. G-town is right there as well, though I don't consider Green a big man either (just 34% of his shots this season are "inside" shots). that said, I think the debate has resolved itself if only a handful of teams can be considered better than Duke at developing bigs.
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hoyabinx
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Post by hoyabinx on Nov 30, 2009 14:33:25 GMT -5
I notice you left out NBA success as a way to measure big men. Coincidence? I think not. it's not a coincidence, because Duke's obligation to a player's development ends when that player is drafted. Duke's job is to make sure that player gets drafted as highly as possible; what he does with his NBA career has no bearing on Duke's development of said player. if you'd like to take a look at average or total salaries, however, i'm confident you'll find Duke's big men to be near the top of that list as well. i'd certainly give UConn the edge in big man development over Duke, though not Kansas because they have had two different coaches over the time period discussed, one of whom has a comparable record and the other who really doesn't. G-town is right there as well, though I don't consider Green a big man either (just 34% of his shots this season are "inside" shots). that said, I think the debate has resolved itself if only a handful of teams can be considered better than Duke at developing bigs. I disagree. Our actual player development for bigs is far and away better. Brian Zoubek: Jordan All-America team in 2006, never has played more than 17 minutes a game (this year, 6 pts, 8 brds per game). Josh McRoberts: Arguably #1 ranked player coming in, and, well yeah..... Roy Hibbert: Virtual unknown coming in to college, drafted in the first round and averaging 10 and 7 in the NBA in his second season. (Boozer and Brand are good, but they were damn good coming in to college)
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 30, 2009 14:47:34 GMT -5
MOD NOTE: This is a thread about Roscoe Smith, NOT about Duke's ability to develop or not develop big men. Take that discussion elsewhere.
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royski
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Post by royski on Nov 30, 2009 14:53:00 GMT -5
MOD NOTE: This is a thread about Roscoe Smith, NOT about Duke's ability to develop or not develop big men. Take that discussion elsewhere. We're just providing Roscoe with some reading material if he googles "roscoe smith hoyas".
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Nov 30, 2009 15:45:24 GMT -5
Plus, that's not even really a discussion. One guy's right and the other guy went to Duke.
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Post by hibbertfor3 on Nov 30, 2009 16:06:03 GMT -5
I did my best to research before asking this question but came up empty...is Smith definitely announcing THIS week? Thanks
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 30, 2009 16:35:28 GMT -5
I did my best to research before asking this question but came up empty...is Smith definitely announcing THIS week? Thanks There hasn't been a formal/definite announcement that he will decide this week. There's just a lot of insiders / people who know that seem to believe he will be verballing soon.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 30, 2009 16:36:50 GMT -5
There has been no public announcement from the smith camp of a pending announcement. Things are constantly changing in recruiting and we're all along for the ride. Hopefully He makes the right choice in the end and joins his family on the hilltop.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 30, 2009 16:39:54 GMT -5
How many more pages until we reach Latavious?
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