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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 29, 2009 11:07:08 GMT -5
uh huh. You are privy to some top secret s--t there my friend. Clearly Smith is going to Duke. Listen - get past the sweet 16 for the first time in half a decade, then come back and talk smack. Coach K only has a few more years left. Fear your future. no smack talk here, although i guess i could congratulate you guys on all those final fours you've reached over the past 25 years. oh, only one? well then maybe i'll just congratulate you guys on your drubbing of Lafayette. 97 points?!?! that's more than double what you scored against those big, tough Temple Owls!!! seriously though, what's the point of that bs? i came over to see where the smoke was blowing with Roscoe, nothing else. Aaaaaand you just overstayed your welcome. Thanks for playing, though. We have some lovely parting gifts backstage.
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Post by krukster201 on Nov 29, 2009 11:44:42 GMT -5
BAN Him ... I just got banned after being verbally assaulted by Duke fans on the Rival site and I didn't do anything to deserve it .. all I did was defend myself and my Team .. DUCK fans are to sensitive and act like their players on the court "SOFT" ... Go flop somewhere or practice slapping the floor .. better yet - go burn a bone with Mr. singler .. fruit loop! Sorry in advance Mods..
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 29, 2009 12:06:53 GMT -5
People. No need to get testy. The fact he's a Duke fan is punishment enough for any transgression.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 29, 2009 12:07:14 GMT -5
Remember when the thought of playing Duke was actually a cause for concern? Ahh... the bad old days. The only one and dones Duke fans need to worry about are their squads in the tourney.
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Post by RDF on Nov 29, 2009 12:52:18 GMT -5
Why is a Duke fan allowed to come here and instigate crap? If you don't like what's being said about Duke on a GEORGETOWN site--you don't have to post here. I think there are plenty of fun activities to do like watching homoerotic videos made by your basketball team that were shown at your Midnight Madness.
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Post by shf9 on Nov 29, 2009 13:22:11 GMT -5
i didn't instigate anything. i shared some info and said that Duke feels good about where they are with Smith b/c of that info; "guru" took a shot, so i took a fair shot back (using nothing but facts). if that's not allowed, then i'll leave.
as far as Duke thinking they get everybody, i think that's kind of silly. most knew we weren't getting Patterson or Monroe or Boynton, among many others. Duke recruited Smith as a compliment to Barnes; his offer was NEVER conditional on Barnes going elsewhere. Duke's presence has been consistent throughout Smith's recruitment, so it's not as if i'm calling for Duke to swoop in at the last minute and scoop him up, either.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 29, 2009 13:24:55 GMT -5
This is a recruiting battle, no doubt. K has won some against us, and vice versa (Duke also recruited Hollis). Five years ago, who would have thunk it? Winning a recruiting battle against Duke is no easy task. Just ask Wake Forest.
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Post by guru on Nov 29, 2009 13:39:24 GMT -5
i didn't instigate anything. i shared some info and said that Duke feels good about where they are with Smith b/c of that info; "guru" took a shot, so i took a fair shot back (using nothing but facts). if that's not allowed, then i'll leave. as far as Duke thinking they get everybody, i think that's kind of silly. most knew we weren't getting Patterson or Monroe or Boynton, among many others. Duke recruited Smith as a compliment to Barnes; his offer was NEVER conditional on Barnes going elsewhere. Duke's presence has been consistent throughout Smith's recruitment, so it's not as if i'm calling for Duke to swoop in at the last minute and scoop him up, either. Edited.--Admin
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Post by krukster201 on Nov 29, 2009 13:48:35 GMT -5
They also Tried to Pry LUBICK while commited to the Hoyas and have done this with many recruits (Not only Rivers) .. listen .. I have no problem with Duke fans coming over here to discuss B-Ball / Recruits ect .. but for most part , your fan base is rather annoying and arrogant .. no disrespect to you at all .. but it seems like most dookies are over sensitive when it comes to GU not sure why ... You guys have won a fair amount of recruiting battles over many teams including the Hoyas - Hairston .. Thornton .. Kelly and to certain extent Dawkins .. but if you look at the options we landed in place of them , we got the better deal (LUBICK , STARKS , THOMPSON and the jury is still out on Roscoe) I like our chances with Roscoe ... I just feel the thought of being a 2nd or 3rd option for UNC may cause him to have a chip on his shoulder to the point where Duke may be the choice when its all said and done (even though he was a back-up plan for the DEVILS as well - regardless of what your fans say) .. we offer much more to Roscoe as far as PT.. chance to stay Local .. education .. and most of all guaranteed developement and preperation for the league .. we've been Loyal to him since his soph yr in H.S and never made him feel his 'ship was two-sided .. Coach K is the master of recruiting over prospects (Miller 2011) and many players waste yrs riding pine over the yrs .. to each his own .. If you land Roscoe - Good for you ... if land Roscoe Good for us .. either way I'll support the kids choice and wish him well ... with that said - do me a favor and let the internet thugs over on the DUKE rival site know I SAID HELLO!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 29, 2009 14:11:10 GMT -5
i didn't instigate anything. i shared some info and said that Duke feels good about where they are with Smith b/c of that info; "guru" took a shot, so i took a fair shot back (using nothing but facts). if that's not allowed, then i'll leave. as far as Duke thinking they get everybody, i think that's kind of silly. most knew we weren't getting Patterson or Monroe or Boynton, among many others. Duke recruited Smith as a compliment to Barnes; his offer was NEVER conditional on Barnes going elsewhere. Duke's presence has been consistent throughout Smith's recruitment, so it's not as if i'm calling for Duke to swoop in at the last minute and scoop him up, either. Your fan base was caught completely by surprise by monroe's decision to go to Georgetown. I don't know for sure about any others, but I read your boards during the monroe recruitment as i'm doing during the roscoe recruitment. Everyone there thought Monroe was in the bag or at the very least Duke was a very strong leader.
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 29, 2009 14:42:39 GMT -5
Oh, the mods are going to LOVE the tone of this discussion. ;D Still, I have to agree with the recent posts.
shf9, its revisionism of the highest order to say that Duke fans weren't expecting to get Monroe. With the exception of recruiting battle the last couple of years against UNC, Duke fans tended to think they would get anybody K went after. Now recently some have become gun shy after some highly publicized misses on the recruiting front, but it doesn't take long for the arrogance of Duke fans to surface. Maybe the week before Monroe committed to Gtown Duke fans started to even consider the Hoyas as a possible threat to attain his services. MAYBE. But most were floored with Monroe's decision to go to GU. I was there. I still probably have the old threads from Duke websites on a disc somewhere. Let that one go.
I don't think shf9 has done anything worthy of being banned over but at the same time neither did KRUNKSTER. I agree with KRUNK that Duke fans are timid and thin-skinned. Two or so years ago I was banned from their Scout board just after one comment about K's development (or lack of) of big men. My comment was made in rebuttal of some Duke fan who made some insulting comments about III and Gtown. My response was nearly not as rude but I made a strong case on how K has come up short when it comes to development. As a result (and despite a good history on that board during which I never wrote any posts that angered the Duke fans) I was banned.
Also despite your spin Duke was late to the recruiting process when it comes to Roscoe. Duke didn't start paying him any true attention until the summer which is much later than when it first turned its eyes towards Barnes and Irving. Duke came in late for Roscoe. It also came in much later for Tyler Thornton and Hairston compared to Georgetown which had been recruiting those kids for at least a year before K looked towards their way. And perhaps that is what irks us Hoya fans the most. Duke and K doing a whole lot less work for a kid and coming in and snatching the player away. That's why I had no sympathy for Duke regarding Barnes' decision. It couldn't have happened to a more deserving coach, program and fan base. And now K goes into full court press mode for Roscoe after losing out on Barnes? Well, that was predicted by everyone. Hopefully this kid won't fall for it but its out of my hands. Meanwhile I sit back and watch with interest all the players K continues to recruit over. Thornton will never start and will have to fight for decent minutes. Hairston will be behind other guys for the foreseeable future and K will surely continue to recruit forwards more highly regarded than him. And Ryan Kelly will one day realize that if he had picked any other school he would have gotten the minutes that a top prospect like him expects.
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Post by RDF on Nov 29, 2009 14:51:21 GMT -5
Aren't you the same D-Bag who came over here and told me about how "wrong" I was for saying Duke sucks at developing bigs compared to Georgetown? I didn't say Duke isnt an elite program--just that they are horrid in developing bigs--and all of their best bigs have been PF who play Center at college level.
I don't care how bad something was said to you here--if you are complaining about a Hoya fan's "tone" on a GEORGETOWN site and try to defend your stance by INSULTING GEORGETOWN you can take your butt elsewhere. This is a Hoya site--and I for one NEVER go to another site and insult that team--no matter how welcome I've been received. If it's bad--I just leave which is what I'd like for you to do personally and if you insult any Hoya fan I'd like you to be banned. I don't have a problem with discussion/opinions but once you attacked my team on the site I choose to read, then I have a problem with you.
OK folks, let's tone this down on all sides or the thread will be locked.--Admin
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Post by shf9 on Nov 29, 2009 15:42:27 GMT -5
i don't hang out on the rivals or scout boards, so i don't know anything about their reaction to Monroe. i imagine the apocalypse would have caused less of a stir over there.
yes, i'm the "d-bag" who defended Duke's track record on bigs. that's neither here nor there. there is enough NBA money invested in Duke bigs to make the argument moot.
"late to" or "putting more work into" a recruitment is a relative term. did Georgetown offer Roscoe earlier? yes. that doesn't mean that Duke's staff wasn't evaluating or in contact with him. G-town has the built-in advantage of being in his backyard (as well as Thornton's, Hairston's, Dawkins', etc.), so implying that just by offering earlier means they put in more work doesn't really hold water, in my opinion. i know Duke has followed Smith since last spring at the latest (there are interviews from April/May to back that up).
fwiw, he's visited the school and had an in-home with K, so i don't see the OV being very relevant. Smith has said, i believe, that the OV isn't that important to him.
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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 29, 2009 15:55:09 GMT -5
i didn't instigate anything. i shared some info and said that Duke feels good about where they are with Smith b/c of that info; "guru" took a shot, so i took a fair shot back (using nothing but facts). if that's not allowed, then i'll leave. Nope, it's not allowed. Bye.
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Post by gtown59270 on Nov 29, 2009 16:22:27 GMT -5
goodbye shf9
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 29, 2009 16:25:33 GMT -5
This recruitment is going to get worse before it gets better. I went over to the Duke Scout board today and learned that Jeff Green is not a wing.
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Post by gtown59270 on Nov 29, 2009 16:31:22 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 29, 2009 16:38:16 GMT -5
"late to" or "putting more work into" a recruitment is a relative term. did Georgetown offer Roscoe earlier? yes. that doesn't mean that Duke's staff wasn't evaluating or in contact with him. G-town has the built-in advantage of being in his backyard (as well as Thornton's, Hairston's, Dawkins', etc.), so implying that just by offering earlier means they put in more work doesn't really hold water, in my opinion. i know Duke has followed Smith since last spring at the latest (there are interviews from April/May to back that up). There are PLENTY of local recruits, even good ones, that III doesn't get involved with until later in the process. Being near a recruit doesn't always mean one has a leg up in the recruiting process in terms of seriously targeting a player. Considering that the state of North Carolina doesn't tend to produce all that many great prospects I would think the Duke coaching staff would be piling up the frequent flyer milage to more fertile grounds all the time. Hell, Barnes doesn't exactly live next door and yet somehow the Duke staff started on him real early. Not so much so for Roscoe. And Duke did come in late for Roscoe. He was on Edited radar simply because he was a top 30 kid but Duke didn't pursue him. That's why it was a surprise to the majority of Duke fans this past summer when Roscoe's name first started coming up as a Duke prospect. It took a lot of folks by surprise (even some recruiting gurus). But with Duke feeling they needed to keep up with the Joneses (aka UNC) and UNC indicating that it would not extend an offer to Roscoe, K wanted to make a big splash and bring in all the talent he could in the 2010 class. Nonetheless K virtually ignored Roscoe. Its great that he is finally finding time to talk to Roscoe. Certainly he did not have that problem when it came to Barnes.
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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 29, 2009 17:04:37 GMT -5
I still probably have the old threads from Duke websites on a disc somewhere. For real?
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Post by RDF on Nov 29, 2009 17:11:52 GMT -5
i don't hang out on the rivals or scout boards, so i don't know anything about their reaction to Monroe. i imagine the apocalypse would have caused less of a stir over there. yes, i'm the "d-bag" who defended Duke's track record on bigs. that's neither here nor there. there is enough NBA money invested in Duke bigs to make the argument moot. "late to" or "putting more work into" a recruitment is a relative term. did Georgetown offer Roscoe earlier? yes. that doesn't mean that Duke's staff wasn't evaluating or in contact with him. G-town has the built-in advantage of being in his backyard (as well as Thornton's, Hairston's, Dawkins', etc.), so implying that just by offering earlier means they put in more work doesn't really hold water, in my opinion. i know Duke has followed Smith since last spring at the latest (there are interviews from April/May to back that up). fwiw, he's visited the school and had an in-home with K, so i don't see the OV being very relevant. Smith has said, i believe, that the OV isn't that important to him. Look troll, you were gags or whatever on this board talking trash and you are still Gags1288 or whatever on the duke boards. You are only fooling yourself. HSB, called you out a long time ago, and the same retarded logic about your "bigs" is being spewed.
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