DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 5, 2008 0:20:48 GMT -5
Who cares? What we really want to know is what cabinet post OPRAH is going to get!
;D
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Nov 5, 2008 0:28:33 GMT -5
Who's Palin?
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PhillyHoya
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Post by PhillyHoya on Nov 5, 2008 0:36:41 GMT -5
She can always run for the special election provided Stevens wins.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Nov 5, 2008 0:41:21 GMT -5
Reality TV show.
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Nov 5, 2008 0:53:01 GMT -5
Sarah Palin's Charm School? Or Sarah Palin's new BFF?
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Nov 5, 2008 1:02:01 GMT -5
Serious answer: She's 2012's John Edwards -- she'll run for Prez, get some traction, but ultimately appeal to only a smallish, dedicated group of supporters.
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TC
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Post by TC on Nov 5, 2008 1:13:36 GMT -5
I think John McCain said it best - great campaigner. What he didn't say was "great running mate", "great partner", or "great leader".
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Nov 5, 2008 1:15:45 GMT -5
Sarah Palin's Charm School? Or Sarah Palin's new BFF? Sarah Palin's Hunting School.
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Nov 5, 2008 9:22:43 GMT -5
Serious answer: She's 2012's John Edwards -- she'll run for Prez, get some traction, but ultimately appeal to only a smallish, dedicated group of supporters. I hope you are right, and that this is the best-case scenario for her.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 5, 2008 21:16:35 GMT -5
Serious answer: She's 2012's John Edwards -- she'll run for Prez, get some traction, but ultimately appeal to only a smallish, dedicated group of supporters. I agree with this take wholeheartedly and thought of the same comparison this morning, but I would take it a step farther. When one peeled away the veneer of Edwards over the past 4 years (and it only came to light recently), one could find a fraud. He misled the country as to his extramarital affair by his representing himself as a family man in this campaign. Palin's failings aren't as dramatic, but she, by her shopping habits, has not shown herself to be immune from the very elitism that she denounces. More importantly and as the post-mortems are written, it appears as though she, to some extent, placed her own interests above those of Senator McCain. I trust that the Republican Party will be able to find more capable leaders in the coming days. Governor Jindal may be the right fit, but I still think Huckabee should figure prominently in the equation.
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mchoya
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Post by mchoya on Nov 5, 2008 21:57:51 GMT -5
Jindal will run for president either in 2012 or 2016, depending on the results of Obama's first term. He has a very solid chance of being the president and represents a break with the Republicans (even though he was a Representative from 2005-2008). His response to Hurricane Ike certainly beats the Republican response to Katrina.
I don't really see Huckabee playing too much of a role in the new GOP. I think he likes where he is now with his Fox News show.
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Buckets
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Post by Buckets on Nov 5, 2008 23:17:55 GMT -5
Perhaps she should take Map of the Modern World?
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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 5, 2008 23:22:22 GMT -5
She would make an alright ring girl at some local boxing matches up in Wasilla.
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afirth
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Post by afirth on Nov 5, 2008 23:28:00 GMT -5
Hmmm. On the one hand, I find it very difficult believe that Sarah Palin actually thought Africa was a country and not a continent. There's that famous Bushism where Bush says that Africa is a "country of many problems" or something. Could have been a slip of the tongue. On the other hand, this is being reported on Fox News, not liberal skewed CNN/MSNBC.
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Post by redskins12820 on Nov 5, 2008 23:36:02 GMT -5
Perhaps she should take Map of the Modern World? That has to be the most absurd thing I've ever seen. I cannot believe she was almost VP. Makes me shudder
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afirth
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Post by afirth on Nov 5, 2008 23:40:21 GMT -5
If there was a "great deal of concern" from the McCain campaign that she "lacked a degree of knowledgeability necessary to be vice president," wouldn't the campaign have, um, I don't know, DONE something about it? Like picked a better candidate? This really has to be one of the worst run campaigns of all time.
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Post by redskins12820 on Nov 5, 2008 23:52:33 GMT -5
If there was a "great deal of concern" from the McCain campaign that she "lacked a degree of knowledgeability necessary to be vice president," wouldn't the campaign have, um, I don't know, DONE something about it? Like picked a better candidate? This really has to be one of the worst run campaigns of all time. Agree. Not saying McCain would have run with a better campaign, but it wouldn't have been a landslide.
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 6, 2008 9:22:28 GMT -5
Let the infighting begin. While Palin does not strike me as the sharpest tool in the drawer, I'd say with some certainty that this was a case of backbiting. The staffers are doling out blame everywhere they can and a big target is Palin. I seriously doubt the claims are true. They are most likely exasperated exclamations made over a consulatory beer taken out of context. Hyperbole, if you will.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Nov 6, 2008 9:34:17 GMT -5
In addition, there is some talk in conservative circles (this would be up in the dark castle we all meet in that I mentioned earlier this fall) that much of this is coming from Romney people in McCain's campaign and this is a salvo to prevent her from coming back in 2012.
I'm not saying there's no truth to the Carl Cameron report, I'm sure there is some, but I think it's also a bit of gamesmanship AND a bit of the backbiting that Cambridge mentioned.
Put it this way. If Obama had lost, do you really think you wouldn't be hearing a report or two today about how Joe Biden screwed everything up for him with his constant, incessant gaffes?
Palin is smart -- if not worldly -- a good Governor and probably would make a good Senator too. If she does those things, with a better understanding of what the national stage is like, she certainly could be a candidate for national office again. Maybe it would be only at the Edwards level as someone mentioned before, but that is not an insignificant level. Example: Palin runs for President in 2012, does fair to middlin' in the early primaries, but builds up a lot of grassroots support among conservatives. She then throws her support behind -- well, not Romney -- but another leading Republican. That's a big contribution to the conversation and she would continue to be a national player.
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TC
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Post by TC on Nov 6, 2008 10:01:38 GMT -5
Put it this way. If Obama had lost, do you really think you wouldn't be hearing a report or two today about how Joe Biden screwed everything up for him with his constant, incessant gaffes? I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the reports would be about why people didn't vote for Obama if he lost. I don't think you'd hear word one about Biden's gaffes. You might hear about "why didn't he pick Hillary", but Biden would not be thrown under the bus. I really don't understand why people won't just admit that she was a terrible candidate. All the numbers say she was a drag on the ticket. I'm willing to say that Al Franken was a terrible candidate - a less polarizing candidate would have been a shoe-in against Norm Coleman.
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