Phat Philly Phulmer out at year's end

[hifigator]

Dang it, I lost the link, but Fulmer will step down at the end of the year.

For what it's worth, our local guys are already throwing some names around as potential replacements. Spurrier's name will come up, but he's not going anywhere. Mike Leach has been mentioned by several guys and I woud expect Will Muschamp to at least get some mention.

[FormerHoya]

The Tennessee job is better than the Washington job, right?
Is it better than Texas Tech?

[hifigator]

Nov 3, 2008 16:31:07 GMT -5 FormerHoya said:

The Tennessee job is better than the Washington job, right?
Is it better than Texas Tech?

That's a good question. Prestige wise, the Vols job would probably be considered superior. But the main thing has got to be the all-important money. I would be very surprised if the Red Raiders could match what UT could offer. As far as the state of the program right now, there's no doubt that Tech is better. The tough part is that Florida seems to be fairly stable and in about as good a shape as any other program in the entire Nation, except maybe USC. Georgia, last week's game not withstanding, is a very solid program as well. UT has slid down for sure and isn't on the same level as Florida and Georgia, even though they did win the east last year in a strange season. Still, the point is that Leach, at least for one season, has elevated the Tech program to that of Texas and Oklahoma. He will have a hard time doing the same at Tennessee with Florida/Meyer and Georgia/Richt. But the bottom line is that he should be looking at close to $4 million a season at UT. I don't know how close to that money Tech can get.

[vcjack]

Don't forget that the Clemson job is still open as well. And I imagine that several schools will open up shortly (paticularly one that starts with an S and ends with a -use)

[hoyarooter]

Tennessee is likely to be the plum job open next year, and as hifi pointed out, they can most likely throw enough money at Leach to make a move irresistable. I can't see him leaving Texas Tech to move to Syracuse or Clemson (or Washington), but Tennessee? That's a different story.

[AustinHoya03]

Did this topic really require its own thread? I think this would certainly fit within the bounds of the 2008 CFB thread that hifi himself started.

[younghoya32]

As a University of Tennessee student and a Georgetown basketball fan I ask you Hifi was this really necessary? First off, to make fun of such a class act like Fulmer on a sad day both here in Knoxville and across the nation for Tennessee alums and fans. Secondly, if you are going to do it, go join you arrogant friends on a Florida board and make unoriginal fat jokes there. While this is the Pro and College sports boards, I am willing to bet no more than a hand full of people registered to this site care about Tennessee football. It's been a tough fall down here, but it's people like you that make me excited to beat Florida twice this winter. Go Hoyas and Go Vols...

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Nov 3, 2008 23:46:14 GMT -5 younghoya32 said:

As a University of Tennessee student and a Georgetown basketball fan I ask you Hifi was this really necessary?

You haven't been around here long, have you? Nothing hifi posts here is necessary.

[hifigator]

Oh, my poke at the round mound of doughut eating machine struck a nerve. Sorry. I honestly didn't think anyone would get offended by that. I didn't realize we had a "hoyaVol" in the house. Seriously, I was just breaking a story.

As for whether this should have been in the regular college football thread, we had this discussion last year, and as I recall, the majority opinion was that the assorted coaching changes were significant enough to warrant a dedicated thread, in addition to not watering down the actual football thread. As more jobs open up, which will likely happen in the next month or so, this thread might be a good place to post such news.

[hifigator]

This is pretty good:

www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=482336

I think the best quote is that line from Spurrier about "not being interested now ...." but that he would have gone 4 years ago. Do you think he meant it, or was that just Spurrier being Spurrier and rubbing salt in the wound?

[theexorcist]

Nov 3, 2008 21:11:42 GMT -5 hoyarooter said:

Tennessee is likely to be the plum job open next year, and as hifi pointed out, they can most likely throw enough money at Leach to make a move irresistable. I can't see him leaving Texas Tech to move to Syracuse or Clemson (or Washington), but Tennessee? That's a different story.

I walked past the Newseum today. If you've never seen it, they have papers from every state, plus D.C. and a few foreign ones. All focused on the election, with two exceptions. One was a West Virginia paper that ignored it entirely.

The other was the Nashville Tennessean, where the election was under the fact that UT needed a new coach.

So, Tennessee takes football seriously.

The problem is that you're in an awesome array of talent. Spurrier, Meyer, Saban, Richt - everyone's making obscene amounts of money. And because of this, failure's not an option.

So UT may not necessarily be a plum spot unless you're guaranteed cash. Better jobs may be Washington (you own the state if you're good, Cali is close by, USC's the only perennial challenger, Wazzu is usually awful), Clemson (ACC is mediocre, the Southeast is talent-rich) and Syracuse (Big East is there for the taking, ready to become a national player if Penn State stumbles during the Paterno handover).

[hifigator]

Nov 4, 2008 16:14:58 GMT -5 theexorcist said:

Nov 3, 2008 21:11:42 GMT -5 hoyarooter said:

Tennessee is likely to be the plum job open next year, and as hifi pointed out, they can most likely throw enough money at Leach to make a move irresistable. I can't see him leaving Texas Tech to move to Syracuse or Clemson (or Washington), but Tennessee? That's a different story.

I walked past the Newseum today. If you've never seen it, they have papers from every state, plus D.C. and a few foreign ones. All focused on the election, with two exceptions. One was a West Virginia paper that ignored it entirely.

The other was the Nashville Tennessean, where the election was under the fact that UT needed a new coach.

So, Tennessee takes football seriously.

The problem is that you're in an awesome array of talent. Spurrier, Meyer, Saban, Richt - everyone's making obscene amounts of money. And because of this, failure's not an option.

So UT may not necessarily be a plum spot unless you're guaranteed cash. Better jobs may be Washington (you own the state if you're good, Cali is close by, USC's the only perennial challenger, Wazzu is usually awful), Clemson (ACC is mediocre, the Southeast is talent-rich) and Syracuse (Big East is there for the taking, ready to become a national player if Penn State stumbles during the Paterno handover).

I mostly agree, but I will probably have some company here in not singing Cuse's praises much. In all seriousness, I think their better days are behind them and I'm not planning on losing any sleep over it. The Big East is certainly not the conference it once was with Miami, BC and Va Tech in the ACC. But I think Syracuse still has an uphill battle. West Va., Pitt and even UConn and Rutgers are in a position to continue making life miserable for Syracuse football and like I said, that is a good thing.

[hoyainspirit]

When did Cutcliffe leave? Has TN been a top tier program since then?

[hifigator]

Cutcliffe actually left twice. He left a half-dozen or more years back and went to Ole Miss, I think. Ironically, I remember Tennessee fans grumbling about their offense back then. Later David returned to the Vols and was there until last season, when he left to take over at Duke. In related news, he has been preemptive in taking his hat out of the ring, before things even got off the ground. He said he didn't want any distractions, and that he was already hearing from potiential recruits that other coaches were hinting that he would be leaving to take over at UT. That's something, when the Duke football coach wants to squelch rumors about his leaving to go to Tennessee for fear of it hurting Duke's recruiting class. (We're not talking about basketball, remember.)

[SFHoya99]

Your point is exactly why Cutcliffe's denial means nothing.

He's not going to screw over Duke (or himself if he decides to stay). If he's anything like most coaches, he will likely lie to recruits and his team (to avoid distraction) and then evaluate his options in the off-season.

[hifigator]

Fair enough, SF. But since he just went there last season, I could see him wanting to accomplish a little something before going back into what is an almost certain 3 or 4 year building/failure project.