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Post by Bando on Oct 30, 2008 15:34:44 GMT -5
OK, so the book was actually "dedicated" to those that died, among others, rather than to Yasser, among others. Conversely, he was thanked. So instead of being "dedicated" to Yasser and having a glowing "tribute" to those that died. It was Arafat who was "thanked" and those who died, among others, to which the book was dedicated. I apologize for such egregious errors. Yes, because it's obviously un-American to grieve over Arab deaths. They all deserve to die. You're a terrible human being.
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Oct 30, 2008 15:38:51 GMT -5
Methinks you've had too much holiday eggnog already Bando.
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Post by Bando on Oct 30, 2008 17:48:47 GMT -5
More on Khalidi: In 1998, the IRI (chaired by McCain) awarded a grant of $448,873 to the Center for Palestine Research and Studies, which was co-founded by Khalidi. Link.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 30, 2008 18:20:32 GMT -5
As with Said before him, Khalidi's involvement with the Palestinian cause goes beyond mere support. News reports -- including a 1982 dispatch from Thomas Friedman of the New York Times -- suggest that he once served as Director of the Palestinian press agency, Wikalat al-Anba al-Filastinija. I enjoy this part. Wait -- a 1982 dispatch suggested he once served as Director of a Press Agency? Really? 26 year old hearsay that he served as Director of Press Agency that I guarantee you know nothing about.
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Post by FewFAC on Oct 30, 2008 18:34:06 GMT -5
I really feel bad for the Republican Party that it is so encapsulated in its bubble of "faith" that it can no longer find a paradigm to respond to reality. People like hifi only further accelerate the movement away from the Republican brand, which, even were McCain to pull off a miracle, would continue to be destroyed by a Congress that can do whatever they want at will. I'd rather have a POTUS who can at least serve as a guiding and moderating force, since Republicans threw "guiding" and "moderating" under the bus a long time ago.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 30, 2008 20:41:03 GMT -5
As with Said before him, Khalidi's involvement with the Palestinian cause goes beyond mere support. News reports -- including a 1982 dispatch from Thomas Friedman of the New York Times -- suggest that he once served as Director of the Palestinian press agency, Wikalat al-Anba al-Filastinija. I enjoy this part. Wait -- a 1982 dispatch suggested he once served as Director of a Press Agency? Really? 26 year old hearsay that he served as Director of Press Agency that I guarantee you know nothing about. I agree with that much. Maybe my tone didn't come through. That was the point of the question related to "factual accuracy." You have yet to prove or disprove that comment. If so, EITHER WAY, then that is what I am looking for.
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 3, 2008 13:24:50 GMT -5
Christopher Hitchen, a vocal and often polemic critic of "Islamofacists" comes out in defense of Khalidi and rebukes the McCain campaign for slandering the respected academic. www.slate.com/id/2203619/"Khalidi has been known to me for some time and can easily be read and consulted by anyone with the remotest curiosity about the Israeli-Arab dispute. He is highly renowned, well beyond the borders of his own discipline, for his measure and care and scruple in weighing the issue. If he is seriously to be compared to a "neo-Nazi," then the Republican nominee has put the United States in the unbelievable position of slandering the most courageously "moderate" of the Palestinian Arabs as a brownshirt and a fascist. What then has been the point of every negotiation on a two-state solution since President George H.W. Bush convened the peace conference in Madrid in 1991? Nazis, after all, are to be crushed, not accommodated. One would have to think hard before coming up with a more crazy and irresponsible statement on any subject. Once again, it seems that McCain utterly lost his bearings. I put the word moderate in quotation marks above because I dislike employing it in its usual form. Rashid Khalidi's family is a famous one in Jerusalem, long respected by Arab and Christian and Jew and Druze and Armenian, and holding a celebrated house and position in the city since approximately the time of the Crusades. I have had the honor of being invited to this very house. If Rashid chooses to state that he doesn't care to be evicted from his ancestral home in order to make way for some settler from Brooklyn who claims to have God on his side, I think he has a perfect right to say so. I would go further and say that if Barack Obama was looking for a Palestinian friend, he could not have chosen any better. But perhaps John McCain has decided that he doesn't need any Palestinian friends and neither do we. Perhaps he thinks it's all right to refer to refugees and victims of occupation, who have been promised self-determination and statehood at the podium of the United Nations and the U.S. Congress by George Bush and Condoleezza Rice, as if they were Hitlerites. How shameful. How disgusting. How ignorant. One could go a step further and say that many Israelis have used the words apartheid and terrorist to describe at least some of their government's policies. In just the same way, one could note that Khalidi has clearly denounced violence when used by his "own" side, and also—this I remember very well from meeting him in Beirut in the 1970s and '80s—when employed by regimes like the Syrian. But somehow this evidence and this reflection has become beside the point. McCain saw a chance to deal a cheap and low blow, and he had the ideally ignorant deputy to reinforce him. The slander, after all, might get them through another news cycle and perhaps adhere some defamatory mud to their opponent. Who cares that it made the United States of America look thuggish and ignorant and petty in the eyes of any thinking person in the Middle East? Anyone who does care should be getting ready to vote against this humiliating ticket, a team that so farcically and horribly unites the senescent and the puerile."
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Post by hifigator on Nov 3, 2008 13:32:06 GMT -5
For the record, I don't think that Khalidi would even be an issue by himself. But I think that when you have the history of fringe characters, then I think associations that are even remotely so are exagerated. Should they? That's a matter of opinion. But IF ... and that is certainly a big if ... but if the tapes showed the kinds of outlandish, anti-semitic comments that, for instance Jeremiah Wright has openly made on many occassions, and if Obama is seemingly giving aproval through applause etc... THEN there could be concerns. That's why I think it would be best to simply release the tapes. But I understand there's a lot more to it than that.
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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 3, 2008 13:39:11 GMT -5
HE TAUGHT AT GEORGETOWN. HE IS NOT FRINGE. You can disagree with certain elements of his scholarship, but major American universities (like Georgetown, Columbia, and U. Chicago) DO NOT bring "fringe" terrorist-sympathizing anti-Semites to teach. The fact that you find this man so awful despite the fact that his reputation was sound enough to bring him to Georgetown is an insult to our University. And coming from a Gator, that won't stand.
Further, not to rehash the old news, but please cite the "many occasions" on which Jeremiah Wright has made openly anti-Semitic comments. Please. Try.
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 3, 2008 13:52:47 GMT -5
For the record, I don't think that Khalidi would even be an issue by himself. But I think that when you have the history of fringe characters, then I think associations that are even remotely so are exagerated. Should they? That's a matter of opinion. But IF ... and that is certainly a big if ... but if the tapes showed the kinds of outlandish, anti-semitic comments that, for instance Jeremiah Wright has openly made on many occassions, and if Obama is seemingly giving aproval through applause etc... THEN there could be concerns. That's why I think it would be best to simply release the tapes. But I understand there's a lot more to it than that. So you're done with Khalidi? It's back to Wright and the other "fringe" characters Obama is meant to associate with, is it? Well, if you want to play that game, I'd like to know about some of the "fringe" characters that Palin is meant to associate with. Such as, Ed Kalnins, Dexter Clark, Mark Chryson and Steve Stoll.
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Post by hifigator on Nov 3, 2008 14:23:21 GMT -5
Strummer, Ayers is a professor at Chicago as well.
Cambridge, I'm not "shifting gears" from Khalidi to Wright, just pointing him out as yet another influence to Obama with somewhat extreme views.
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 3, 2008 14:32:43 GMT -5
Strummer, Ayers is a professor at Chicago as well. Cambridge, I'm not "shifting gears" from Khalidi to Wright, just pointing him out as yet another influence to Obama with somewhat extreme views. But, he doesn't have "somewhat extreme views." He is a moderate.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 3, 2008 19:49:36 GMT -5
I can't wait till tomorrow. Hifi promise me you won't bring up any of this after Obama is president.
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