MCIGuy
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Macklin
Oct 21, 2008 10:08:12 GMT -5
Post by MCIGuy on Oct 21, 2008 10:08:12 GMT -5
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Macklin
Oct 21, 2008 11:35:56 GMT -5
Post by HeartAttackHoya on Oct 21, 2008 11:35:56 GMT -5
Good for Vern. Best of luck to him. Undoubtedly has the potential to flourish in the UF system..
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hifigator
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Macklin
Oct 21, 2008 13:10:19 GMT -5
Post by hifigator on Oct 21, 2008 13:10:19 GMT -5
That's kind of funny. I was coming here specifically to post the same link. I think it's kind of interesting that he is immediately inheriting the role of veteran.
I'm also impressed that Vern seems to have the right attitude. He hasn't complained about his time as a Hoya. There isn't any apparent animosity over playing time and in fact was praising the chance to learn behind Roy and Jeff.
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RDF
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Macklin
Oct 21, 2008 13:29:11 GMT -5
Post by RDF on Oct 21, 2008 13:29:11 GMT -5
As one of the few people who actually liked Vernon's progress while at Georgetown, I wish him well. His last game he played his butt off and was key in getting Hoyas big lead over Davidson--and whatever happened--best to him. It's about enjoying your experience and fitting in and for whatever reason that didn't happen for him, so time to move on.
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MCIGuy
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Macklin
Oct 21, 2008 14:37:43 GMT -5
Post by MCIGuy on Oct 21, 2008 14:37:43 GMT -5
That's kind of funny. I was coming here specifically to post the same link. I think it's kind of interesting that he is immediately inheriting the role of veteran. I'm also impressed that Vern seems to have the right attitude. He hasn't complained about his time as a Hoya. There isn't any apparent animosity over playing time and in fact was praising the chance to learn behind Roy and Jeff. He was learning from Roy and Jeff and liked doing so. But I think there was some panic from his "advisers" that he hadn't gotten enough burn to jump directly into the NBA. Pressure was being applied to him to leave GU and go to a program with a rep of playing fastbreak basketball.
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hifigator
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Macklin
Oct 21, 2008 15:58:09 GMT -5
Post by hifigator on Oct 21, 2008 15:58:09 GMT -5
That's kind of funny. I was coming here specifically to post the same link. I think it's kind of interesting that he is immediately inheriting the role of veteran. I'm also impressed that Vern seems to have the right attitude. He hasn't complained about his time as a Hoya. There isn't any apparent animosity over playing time and in fact was praising the chance to learn behind Roy and Jeff. He was learning from Roy and Jeff and liked doing so. But I think there was some panic from his "advisers" that he hadn't gotten enough burn to jump directly into the NBA. Pressure was being applied to him to leave GU and go to a program with a rep of playing fastbreak basketball. I wouldn't doubt that a bit, and in all honesty, I would think that is a major obstacle that JTIII has to deal with every year. When you are trying to recruit the best athletes and are competing against the likes of UNC and Duke every year for the services of players, the vase majority of which has aspirations of playing in the NBA, then I would think convincing them to come into a slow-down half-court scheme would be additionally difficult. On a related note, I'm sure that Macklin saw an added opportunity in Florida's style of play. But even still, it would be easy for the player to highlight a "lack of playing time." In any case, let's hope this can be one of those situations that works out best for both teams involved as well as the player.
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SFHoya99
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Macklin
Oct 21, 2008 19:49:00 GMT -5
Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 21, 2008 19:49:00 GMT -5
It would be great if it worked out for Vernon. It just might.
I just don't think it was really his decision, and I'm not certain it will be the best for him in matter of making the NBA. No one is going to draft a 25% FT Shooter, and no style of play is going to mask that in workouts.
That said, maybe a fresh start will help fix some of his issues. An extra year of practice can't hurt.
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Macklin
Oct 21, 2008 21:52:28 GMT -5
Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 21, 2008 21:52:28 GMT -5
Part of the problem from what i've been told was that Vernon didn't get a long with JTIII. I don't know if it was purely for basketball reasons he didn't like coach or if it was some other reason. But he really did not like JTIII from what i've been told.
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ichirohoya
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Macklin
Oct 21, 2008 21:59:04 GMT -5
Post by ichirohoya on Oct 21, 2008 21:59:04 GMT -5
Best of luck to you Vern. May the Free Throw Gods have pity on your soul and grant you significant improvement.
Seriously, I hope he averages a double double once he's eligible.
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jgalt
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Macklin
Oct 21, 2008 23:13:16 GMT -5
Post by jgalt on Oct 21, 2008 23:13:16 GMT -5
Part of the problem from what i've been told was that Vernon didn't get a long with JTIII. I don't know if it was purely for basketball reasons he didn't like coach or if it was some other reason. But he really did not like JTIII from what i've been told. Yeah and that is just one of those things that a fan will never know, how the team interacts in private, how practices are held and what goes on in the locker room.
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FewFAC
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Macklin
Oct 22, 2008 0:23:19 GMT -5
Post by FewFAC on Oct 22, 2008 0:23:19 GMT -5
That's kind of funny. I was coming here specifically to post the same link. I think it's kind of interesting that he is immediately inheriting the role of veteran. I'm also impressed that Vern seems to have the right attitude. He hasn't complained about his time as a Hoya. There isn't any apparent animosity over playing time and in fact was praising the chance to learn behind Roy and Jeff. He was learning from Roy and Jeff and liked doing so. But I think there was some panic from his "advisers" that he hadn't gotten enough burn to jump directly into the NBA. Pressure was being applied to him to leave GU and go to a program with a rep of playing fastbreak basketball. Won't his advisors be disappointed to see the fastbreak basketball coming from the Hilltop this year. Best of luck Vern!
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hifigator
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Macklin
Oct 22, 2008 0:51:37 GMT -5
Post by hifigator on Oct 22, 2008 0:51:37 GMT -5
Part of the problem from what i've been told was that Vernon didn't get a long with JTIII. I don't know if it was purely for basketball reasons he didn't like coach or if it was some other reason. But he really did not like JTIII from what i've been told. Yeah and that is just one of those things that a fan will never know, how the team interacts in private, how practices are held and what goes on in the locker room. That is an excellent point and, perhaps, the most key word you said was "private." Without pointing fingers in any direction, IF (and I can't emphasize this enough ...) IF that was a significant factor in any way, then I likely think even more of the kid. As I said, IF that was in any way a significant factor, then I would be shocked if, in this day and age, no even remotely validated rumors to the sort, would have popped up by now. What I was trying to say was that while I have zero insight suggesting a "personality conflict," if that was a factor, then the fact that it didn't garner any media attention would only further compliment the character of the player. I've had one (or two ...) too many. Sorry for the rambling, redundant and repetitious reply ... Ah, I still know how to use alliteration ... even in an inebriated state ... and even spelled it right ... I think, though at this point I probably shouldn't ...
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Macklin
Oct 22, 2008 9:32:13 GMT -5
Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 22, 2008 9:32:13 GMT -5
Things operate differently at Georgetown. Hoya Paranoia and all that. Media doesn't know something unless we want them to know.
That being said Vernon has always seemed like a good guy so i wouldn't be surprised at all that he handled a situation he wasn't comfortable in maturely and didn't run to the media if he was upset. Georgetown produces classy guys.
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Elvado
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Macklin
Oct 22, 2008 10:55:50 GMT -5
Post by Elvado on Oct 22, 2008 10:55:50 GMT -5
If Vernon doesn't learn to shoot a free throw, "Big Ticket" will sadly become "Buy a Ticket".
Of course, he can always aspire to be Chris Dudley.
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Macklin
Oct 23, 2008 18:36:02 GMT -5
Post by hoyarooter on Oct 23, 2008 18:36:02 GMT -5
I agree with hifi's rambling, repititious, redundant reply. And this could explain a lot. Many people (including yours truly) were critical of VM's decision to transfer, in my case because I thought it was a serious error in judgment. If, however, he couldn't get along with III (and let's face it, these things happen, and I wouldn't cast blame on anyone), then it makes his decision much more reasonable.
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hifigator
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Macklin
Nov 4, 2008 12:52:21 GMT -5
Post by hifigator on Nov 4, 2008 12:52:21 GMT -5
Here's a question I was thinking about. I know that, per NCAA rules, a transfer in football or basketball must sit out a season, at least if transferring between D-1 schools. But I know that the player can practice, take place in team drills and meetings and can participate in scrimmages. I have seen transfers play in our spring Orange and Blue football game for instance. But I don't remember ever seeing a trasfrer play in an exhibition game. I'm just curious if that is allowed or not. Macklin didn't play at all last night in our first exhibition game. I just wonder whether the coaches think it's just a unneeded chance for injury or whether they want all of the other players to get as much court time or whether it simply isn't allowed. Does anyone know by chance?
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