TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 21, 2008 9:13:11 GMT -5
I don't like your anti ketchup policy but I do like your anti Syracuse policy... Clearly you are an elite east coast elite. Way to eat your hot dog like the commie bastard that you are...eat up comrade. I think you're going to lose the Midwest w/ that anti ketchup policy. I'm a big fan of ketchup and I know my fellow Midwesterners are as well. That being said, I do agree with your Selma killing policy
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Post by Cambridge on Oct 21, 2008 9:15:03 GMT -5
Clearly you are an elite east coast elite. Way to eat your hot dog like the commie bastard that you are...eat up comrade. I think you're going to lose the Midwest w/ that anti ketchup policy. I'm a big fan of ketchup and I know my fellow Midwesterners are as well. That being said, I do agree with your Selma killing policy I disagree. I was once told sternly at a Tigers game that putting ketchup on your sausage was a sign of mental instability. You were basically signalling to the world that you were either an axe murderer or a tax lawyer. Either way, persona non grata.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 21, 2008 9:18:09 GMT -5
I think you're going to lose the Midwest w/ that anti ketchup policy. I'm a big fan of ketchup and I know my fellow Midwesterners are as well. That being said, I do agree with your Selma killing policy I disagree. I was once told sternly at a Tigers game that putting ketchup on your sausage was a sign of mental instability. You were basically signalling to the world that you were either an axe murderer or a tax lawyer. Either way, persona non grata. Interesting. Maybe it is a Minnesota thing, b/c prior to Gtown I'd never heard anyone that cared. Either way, I'm willing to make the sacrifice if it means the expulsion of Syracuse from the Union.
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Post by Cambridge on Oct 21, 2008 9:18:55 GMT -5
Basically, I guess your part of the mid-west is unamerican. You must come from one of those liberal enclaves, I believe they call them communes or mirs. I bet they have a lot of them up there in the big city of Minneapolis. Isn't that the city where that deviant Prince comes from? Oh, and public radio? Gasp. I'm sorry, but back here in real America, we don't tolerate purple rain or ketchup on our dogs.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Oct 21, 2008 9:31:29 GMT -5
Is there a compromise that ketchup is ok if it is joined by mustard on a dog? I'm not afraid to work with the ketchup people, but I'm a bit of a maverick.
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Post by TC on Oct 21, 2008 10:08:32 GMT -5
I would advocate a system in where the amount of ketchup you can use on a hot dog steadily declines over time - if you do not want ketchup on your hot dog, you can trade your license for ketchup to someone else - "catsup and trade", if you will.
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Post by Boz on Oct 21, 2008 10:26:27 GMT -5
This is slowly evolving into either the worst or best thread going on the board.
I'm not sure which yet.
What I am sure of is that it is not bitterness that makes me cling to mustard and mustard alone. Catsup people do not share my values. Those who would say that a mustard-only stance is hurting our standing in the world clearly do not understand condiment policy and are not fit to lead this nation.
Joe(y) the Competitive Hot Dog Eater does not use catsup. Joe(y) the Competitive Hot Dog eater knows that America = mustard (and possibly relish).
Don't even get me started on the sauerkraut people. Damn third-condiment lunatics.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 21, 2008 10:43:03 GMT -5
This is slowly evolving into either the worst or best thread going on the board. I'm not sure which yet. What I am sure of is that it is not bitterness that makes me cling to mustard and mustard alone. Catsup people do not share my values. Those who would say that a mustard-only stance is hurting our standing in the world clearly do not understand condiment policy and are not fit to lead this nation. Joe(y) the Competitive Hot Dog Eater does not use catsup. Joe(y) the Competitive Hot Dog eater knows that America = mustard (and possibly relish). Don't even get me started on the sauerkraut people. Damn third-condiment lunatics. I'm a big fan of chopped onions on my hot dogs. Apparently, I'm the Ron Paul supporter of hot dog eaters
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Post by Bando on Oct 21, 2008 10:49:26 GMT -5
Basically, I guess your part of the mid-west is unamerican. You must come from one of those liberal enclaves, I believe they call them communes or mirs. I bet they have a lot of them up there in the big city of Minneapolis. Isn't that the city where that deviant Prince comes from? Oh, and public radio? Gasp. I'm sorry, but back here in real America, we don't tolerate purple rain or ketchup on our dogs. Hey now, any place who's nickname is "Funkytown" can't be all that bad.
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Post by Jack on Oct 21, 2008 10:56:44 GMT -5
I will come out and say it: I am a ketchup-user. It is a matter of some shame, as I know it puts me in a minority, but I am tired of living in fear of the tyrannical mustard-only majority. My right to enjoy ketchup on my hot dog does nothing to mock the sanctity of your hot dog eating experience. To force me to use mustard, relish, or other non tomato-based condiments on my meat products is just as disgusting to me as the thought of slathering a ballpark frank in Heinz 57 is to you.
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Post by SoCalHoya on Oct 21, 2008 10:57:20 GMT -5
FYI the history/origin of ketchup/catsup is amazing.
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Post by nodak89 on Oct 21, 2008 11:03:19 GMT -5
Hitler used mustard.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 21, 2008 11:09:37 GMT -5
Stalin used catsup. (Churchill used Ketchup)
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Post by hoopsmccan on Oct 21, 2008 12:06:00 GMT -5
“Ketchup is ‘one of the greatest successes the sauce world has ever known,’ wrote Elizabeth Rozin in the Journal of Gastronomy (Summer 1988). In its brilliant red color, its rich flavor, and its marked salinity, Rozin theorizes, ketchup represents the “fulfillment, both real and symbolic, of the ancient and atavistic lust for blood,” magically achieved with the use of plant products alone. Rozin also draws an analogy to the Christian Mass and its fruity surrogate for the blood of Christ, but I forget how it goes. All I know is that I discovered a case of Del Monte in one of the celebrated kitches of Piemonte, in northern Italy, vying with tartufi and porcini for the chef’s affections. And last year in Paris, in a kitchen soon to recieve its second Michelin star, I watched the chef add a dollop of Heinz to his sauce of salmon’s blood, red wine, and verjus, a postmodernization of Escoffier’s sauce genovoise. Cervantes once wrote, “La mejor salsa del mundo es la hambre,” the best sauce in the world is the hunger. Cervantes had obviously never tasted ketchup.”
- Jeffrey Steingarten, “Playing Ketchup,” The Man Who Ate Everything
(I tried to find the whole article/chapter but couldn't)
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Post by vcjack on Oct 21, 2008 12:16:11 GMT -5
I'm very neutral about ketchup but I know that I'll need to appeal to the party base so I'll have to trust VP Cambridge on this issue.
I will focus my presidential energies on more important issues, such as granting the Coca-Cola company a monopoly on soft drink manufacturing while nationalizing Pepsi-Co (for gatorade) and then dismantling all of their inferior products.
I will however compromise and ban the use of the word "Pop"
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Post by strummer8526 on Oct 21, 2008 12:23:51 GMT -5
As a fellow ketchup user, I think that this entire discussion about the appropriateness of condiments is well beyond any of our pay grades. But we all agree on certain fundamental principles, most importantly, removing Syracuse from the Union. So we can all reach that middle ground, and build from there. As a ketchup user, I also love mustards. So maybe we should begin with the basic Syracuse principle and move forward based on a relatively unanimous support for mustard. When and if we reach a point where mustards are popular and prevalent enough to make all our hotdogs better, then we can discuss the role of ketchup.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 21, 2008 12:57:39 GMT -5
I will however compromise and ban the use of the word "Pop" Just lost my vote. You bake with "soda." You drink pop. Mine too. I'm not going to vote for someone from Wisconsin who's flip flopped on the pop/soda issue because he was too worried about elite east coast elites making fun of him for using the word pop. Only Elite East Coast Elites care if people use pop or soda. No need to legislate this. Well, that and you like the White Sox. That's been sticking point for me for awhile.
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Post by Cambridge on Oct 21, 2008 13:03:40 GMT -5
I will come out and say it: I am a ketchup-user. It is a matter of some shame, as I know it puts me in a minority, but I am tired of living in fear of the tyrannical mustard-only majority. My right to enjoy ketchup on my hot dog does nothing to mock the sanctity of your hot dog eating experience. To force me to use mustard, relish, or other non tomato-based condiments on my meat products is just as disgusting to me as the thought of slathering a ballpark frank in Heinz 57 is to you. How dare you threaten to tarnish the holy union of mustard and dog, with your thuroughly vulgar and, quite frankly, unchristian manner of eating. You know I'm generally a tolerant person, but it just gets my goat that Jack would flaunt his lifestyle choice like this. It's a disgrace. I mean, if he wants to live like that in the privacy of his own home, I'm fine with that, but it's not something that our children should be exposed to. Think of the children! Remember, Jesus told us a parable about a mustard seed. I recall no mention of ketchup or catsup in the Good Book. May God have mercy on your heathen souls.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 21, 2008 13:04:45 GMT -5
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 21, 2008 13:06:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I feel about people that call all soda/pop "coke" the same way Cambridge feels about people who use ketchup.
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