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Post by SSHoya on Aug 27, 2011 14:35:00 GMT -5
I was having a discussion with a U.S. Army officer and the fact that the politics in the U.S. seem broken (everyone has their own set of "facts" leading to polarization of positions) and nothing could get accomplished. It is a a very general comment on the fact that when both sides of any debate tend to demonize the other side and believe the worst about the other, nothing can ever get accomplished. That's all that I am alluding to. It happens in the Middle East and he and I agreed that it seems to happen in the U.S. political arena as well. Nothing particularly earth shattering about this as a general observation.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Aug 30, 2011 10:26:26 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on Aug 31, 2011 18:21:26 GMT -5
President Obama's press secretary said he can honestly say the fact the Republicans scheduled a debate from the Reagan Library on Wednesday night had nothing to do with the president scheduling his jobs speech on the same Wednesday night. Wonder what else he can honestly say.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Aug 31, 2011 21:37:16 GMT -5
The President has rescheduled. Hopefully the Republican candidates benefit from the extra attention and live up to the Reagan mantle, which no Republican in the last 20+ years has done.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Sept 1, 2011 7:48:57 GMT -5
As well, following protocol, the White House called the Speaker's office in the morning to inform them of the forthcoming letter requesting the joint session. Date and time were discussed. Only after receiving the letter did the Speaker publicly object.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Sept 1, 2011 8:02:24 GMT -5
As well, following protocol, the White House called the Speaker's office in the morning to inform them of the forthcoming letter requesting the joint session. Date and time were discussed. Only after receiving the letter did the Speaker publicly object. Really? If that were true, you'd think the anonymous White House officials making this claim would be willing to go on the record to score some major points against Boehner, instead of just snarking off the record to the admin's stooges in the media. On the bright side, a Thursday night speech will protect you from having to watch your Aints stumble in Week 1. |
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Post by Elvado on Sept 1, 2011 8:16:52 GMT -5
Our President is nothing short of stunning. He had all that bike riding time on the Vineyard to fine tune his forthcoming plan and somehow, just somehow, he needed to make his Joint Session address on the night of the Republican debate. Does his desire to play politics never cease? Republicans should hve said okay and candidaes in debate should have done a real time commentary (mockery) of General Secretary Obama's plan. It would have revealed what a sad excuse for a leader he really is.
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Post by hoyawatcher on Sept 1, 2011 8:42:49 GMT -5
I thought the attempt to step on the pub debate was a clumsy power play (especially the snarky comments from Carney) and the Speaker's response was predictable. But that really is just inside politics stuff.
What I am really trying to figure out is why he wants to go to a joint session unless he really has something new to say? Something dramatic and game changing. A joint session to say let's pass a few free trade deals, patent reform and extend a payroll tax gig would seem to be a "huh?" moment on a big stage. Even an infrastructure bank doesn't really get it on that level. Blaming Bush again won't play well 3 years into it. All I am left with is that Obama thinks the stage itself plus the oratory will change things- best I can figure? I am really thinking this whole idea of a joint session speech has a high chance of backfiring unless there is something new not in the press so far.
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Post by Elvado on Sept 1, 2011 8:47:45 GMT -5
Maybe he will announce that he will not seek re-election. That would make the markets soar and increase cnsumer onfidencev instantly.
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Post by Boz on Sept 1, 2011 8:58:46 GMT -5
I hear he is going to declare war on unemployment.
His vaunted lasers that he uses to focus on this issue will now be mounted onto frickin' sharks.
You are either going to be with him, or you are going to be with joblessness.
An early leak of the speech notes a section that explains: after all, if Sasha and Malia can get along for two weeks at the Vinyard, surely Republicans and Democrats must be able to come together and work on a liberal solution to the problem.
Not contained in the speech? A castigation of any member of the Congressional Black Caucus for their recent behavior.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Sept 1, 2011 9:00:15 GMT -5
Maybe he will announce that he will not seek re-election. That would make the markets soar and increase cnsumer onfidencev instantly. Who was it that said he'd rather be a terrific one-term president than a mediocre two-term president? If a soft landing were to be worked out, whereby the Congressional GOP would promise not to completely demolish Obamacare, leaving his signature domestic policy achievement intact except for the unconstitutional bits, would the President accept the deal? |
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Post by rosslynhoya on Sept 1, 2011 9:05:10 GMT -5
I hear he is going to declare war on unemployment. I believe the actual plan that his aides crafted at the Vineyard is to establish an individual mandate for employment. If you don't obtain employment from a private source, you must obtain it from new state-based exchanges which will pool the opportunities for the high-risk and otherwise unemployable populations, or else face a draconian fine and possible jailtime. Leftist dems are likely to object due to their support for a Single-Payer Option like many European countries are converging upon, in which the government would be responsible for all employment, cradle-to-grave. |
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Post by hoyainspirit on Sept 1, 2011 11:03:54 GMT -5
As well, following protocol, the White House called the Speaker's office in the morning to inform them of the forthcoming letter requesting the joint session. Date and time were discussed. Only after receiving the letter did the Speaker publicly object. Really? If that were true, you'd think the anonymous White House officials making this claim would be willing to go on the record to score some major points against Boehner, instead of just snarking off the record to the admin's stooges in the media. On the bright side, a Thursday night speech will protect you from having to watch your Aints stumble in Week 1. A not so anonymous official, on the record: White House Press Secretary, Jay Carney, on with Scarborough and Brzezinski. We'll definitely be an underdog to the Super Bowl champs, at their place. But the Saints are good. We've got a shot. |
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Post by nodak89 on Sept 1, 2011 11:17:07 GMT -5
I hear he is going to declare war on unemployment. I believe the actual plan that his aides crafted at the Vineyard is to establish an individual mandate for employment. If you don't obtain employment from a private source, you must obtain it from new state-based exchanges which will pool the opportunities for the high-risk and otherwise unemployable populations, or else face a draconian fine and possible jailtime. Leftist dems are likely to object due to their support for a Single-Payer Option like many European countries are converging upon, in which the government would be responsible for all employment, cradle-to-grave. You forgot about the government panels who get between you and your entrepreneur to determine who is terminally unemployable and thus needs to have the plug pulled and set adrift on an ice floe. |
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Post by kchoya on Sept 1, 2011 11:18:58 GMT -5
Really? If that were true, you'd think the anonymous White House officials making this claim would be willing to go on the record to score some major points against Boehner, instead of just snarking off the record to the admin's stooges in the media. On the bright side, a Thursday night speech will protect you from having to watch your Aints stumble in Week 1. A not so anonymous offical: White House Press Secretary, Jay Carney, on with Scarborough and Brzezinski. You mean the same Jay Carney that said it was just a coincidence that the WH picked Wednesday night at 8?  |
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Post by kchoya on Sept 1, 2011 11:20:38 GMT -5
I believe the actual plan that his aides crafted at the Vineyard is to establish an individual mandate for employment. If you don't obtain employment from a private source, you must obtain it from new state-based exchanges which will pool the opportunities for the high-risk and otherwise unemployable populations, or else face a draconian fine and possible jailtime. Leftist dems are likely to object due to their support for a Single-Payer Option like many European countries are converging upon, in which the government would be responsible for all employment, cradle-to-grave. You forgot about the government panels who get between you and your entrepreneur to determine who is terminally unemployable and thus needs to have the plug pulled and set adrift on an ice floe. Is that the same government panel that decides which companies deserve $535M in loan guarantees? |
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Post by EasyEd on Sept 1, 2011 12:48:03 GMT -5
I hear he is going to declare war on unemployment. I believe the actual plan that his aides crafted at the Vineyard is to establish an individual mandate for employment. If you don't obtain employment from a private source, you must obtain it from new state-based exchanges which will pool the opportunities for the high-risk and otherwise unemployable populations, or else face a draconian fine and possible jailtime. Leftist dems are likely to object due to their support for a Single-Payer Option like many European countries are converging upon, in which the government would be responsible for all employment, cradle-to-grave. Brilliant. |
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Post by EasyEd on Sept 1, 2011 12:48:41 GMT -5
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Post by Boz on Sept 1, 2011 13:05:30 GMT -5
I feel bad for the White House speechwriters.
Right now, I imagine they are scrambling pretty hard cutting those eight paragraphs they had written extolling the "green" economy as a job creator down to one single sentence, or perhaps even just a measly subordinate clause.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Sept 2, 2011 14:47:54 GMT -5
Well, Obama nixed an EPA regulation. How many jobs will that create?
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