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Post by hifigator on Oct 29, 2008 0:18:59 GMT -5
My prediction: the Rays win tomorrow behind solid pitching from star in the making, David Price.
The Rays win 6 at home behind Shields and it sets up a whale of a game 7 between Garza and Hamels.
I will go out on a limb and say that if that happens, I honestly won't complain a bit about the outcome.
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Post by njhoya06 on Oct 29, 2008 8:27:12 GMT -5
I think we'll win tonight. Having the extra at bat is a pretty big advantage, and the back end of the bullpen has been a strength all year.
Two things on Price, who is obviously good and has a bright future: 1) He probably won't pitch the 6th because the pitcher's spot is due up 4th in the 7th for Tampa, and in general having to hit will limit how long he can pitch unless Maddon wants him up there swinging. 2) He gave up a home run to Eric Bruntlett in game two.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 29, 2008 11:51:24 GMT -5
nj, there's two schools of thought on that, but I tend to side with you. On one hand, there is no tomorrow, as the saying goes, for the Rays if they don't win today. (weather interruptions withstanding, obviously). The point is that I think it is crucial to get through the 6th still tied. That being said, I think the Rays don't want to make it a battle of the bullpen. Being on the road, and especially against Philly with essentially two great setup guys and of course, Lidge, that battle would be doomed from the start. So I think the best hope is Price, who can be effective against both righties and lefties and can go 5 innings if need be. But again, the key is getting to the 7th still tied. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if the Rays make it to the 7th tied, then they will find a way to win, but if they give up any runs in the 6th, then they will almost assuredly lose.
In an ideal world, the Rays can get the Phillies in order in the 6th, without using Price and then can get a base runner at the very least in the 7th, allowing them to use a PH and then bring David in for the bottom of the 7th, hopefully with the lead.
As for Price, he is the real deal. I had the priviledge of seeing him pitch in person in 2006 and he was already the complete package. He had command, power, poise. Then I purchased the 2007 Friday night game through the Commodores online service which he pitched as well. Even though the coverage left a lot to be desired (only one camera which never moved, and you couldn't see the outfield lines), you could still tell how dominant he was, just from the swings that our guys got. I was very glad when the Rays took him #1 overall last year.
This was kind of funny. The other day on our local sportstalk show, they were talking about how well Tampa Bay handled him, by not rushing him to the majors. Given that he was in the show just over a year from being drafted, I thought that paid him a tremendous compliment. I guess for him, that wasn't "rushing."
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Post by kchoya on Oct 29, 2008 12:12:23 GMT -5
If Tampa comes away with the WS title... all bets are off. All hell breaks loose. And so on, and so forth. Actually, all bets have been paid off. At least in Vegas, where the sports books consider Philly the winner of the series.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 29, 2008 12:20:48 GMT -5
If Tampa comes away with the WS title... all bets are off. All hell breaks loose. And so on, and so forth. Actually, all bets have been paid off. At least in Vegas, where the sports books consider Philly the winner of the series. Are you serious? That can't be, even though I could understand someone making that argument. If I had the Phillies to win it all, then I would be ticked off if they changed the rules in the middle of the "game."
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Post by hifigator on Oct 29, 2008 13:51:45 GMT -5
Buff, just curious if they ruled it an "under" as well? If they ruled it a "complete game" then that normally takes precedent over the "8 1/2" inning rule.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 29, 2008 14:39:45 GMT -5
Sorry pal, but what had been said so far along those lines wasn't actually normal news, not that someone hasn't had an article or two covering such issues.
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Post by theexorcist on Oct 29, 2008 15:52:43 GMT -5
If this series makes it to a Game 7,there willbe a run on Psychiatrists and suicide hotlines throughout greater Philadelphia. In fact, I'm not sure the locals can handle it going to a Game 6. If it gets to Game 6, there's going to be endless yap about how Bud bailed out the Rays, Philly got screwed, etc. If it gets to Game 7, all the talk is going to be about how Philly is on the verge of an epic choke. If Tampa comes away with the WS title... all bets are off. All hell breaks loose. And so on, and so forth. All hell will not break loose because all of Philly will be on a suicide watch. There will be no rioting, because everyone will have collapsed and lost all energy. The Cubs haven't won anything in a century, but the Bulls dominated the 90s and the Bears won the Super Bowl. The Brewers stink, but the Packers won a Super Bowl the last decade. Houston's had the Rockets. New York, the Yankees. LA, the Lakers. Phoenix had the Diamondbacks win. San Francisco had the 49ers. Atlanta had the Braves. St. Louis had the Rams and the Cardinals. Philly hasn't won anything since Villanova won in '85 (and most of the city hates Villanova) and the Sixers in '83. Of all cities with a team in each of the four major sports, Philly has gone the longest without a single championship. I'm 32, and I remember no major pro Philly team winning a title. It wears on the psyche of the city. I was there for Game Four, and everyone seemed happier and potentially joyous. If the Rays win three straight, dark days loom.
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Post by Elvado on Oct 29, 2008 16:17:30 GMT -5
WHAMMY ALERET PART TWO:
Commissioner Ramsey just robocalled again to request a celebration befitting the City of Brotherly Love and our World Champion Phillies.
This bodes ill for Phils.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 29, 2008 20:41:38 GMT -5
Looks like Lidge time comin' up.
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Post by njhoya06 on Oct 29, 2008 21:17:17 GMT -5
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Oct 29, 2008 21:41:26 GMT -5
I love these guys. For all the bad press for Philly sports (fans mostly); you can't help but cheer for this team.
It's over! 25 years without a title and it's over. Go Phils.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Oct 29, 2008 22:01:11 GMT -5
My text message to all friends at Game 5: Don't die tonight. I seriously wish I was home right now for the celebrations. The parade is gonna be ridiculous. How many millions can they fit on Broad Street or the parkway?
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Post by njhoya06 on Oct 29, 2008 22:10:26 GMT -5
Love this team. Wow.
I really need to get out of work on Friday to get home for the parade.
In Chollie we trust.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 29, 2008 22:49:00 GMT -5
With the Phillies win, it means that now Washington, DC is the four sports town with the longest title drought, with Minnesota second (though they were short a hockey team for a while). The Redskins won in January of 1991. The Twins won in the fall of 1991.
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Post by njhoya06 on Oct 29, 2008 22:53:42 GMT -5
Giants won in January 1991. We went 13-3 in 1990.
Skins won the Super Bowl in 1992 I think. Y'all are on the clock in the Twin Cities.
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Post by saxamaphone on Oct 29, 2008 22:55:32 GMT -5
How 'bout them Phillies!!!!!!!!
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Post by thornski on Oct 30, 2008 0:59:00 GMT -5
...And the planning starts to see how I can manage to get Friday off of work.
GO FIGHTINS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Oct 30, 2008 6:00:26 GMT -5
congrats to the fightin phills and the fans in philly.
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Post by Elvado on Oct 30, 2008 6:27:40 GMT -5
Congrats Phils fans. I don't like them, but I respect them.
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