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Post by kghoya on Nov 12, 2008 18:22:59 GMT -5
I think it's funny that Whitlock would make fun of somebody for being fat. yeah i thought that went w/o saying |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 12, 2008 18:24:37 GMT -5
Weis' failures haven't been on the recruiting trail. He's able to convince people to play for him.
Maybe he's not a college motivator. Maybe he's not a strong developmental guy -- maybe he focuses too much on playcalling and not on technique for example. Maybe he sucks at talent evaluation. Who knows?
But he hasn't had trouble convincing kids to buy into his program.
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Post by FormerHoya on Nov 12, 2008 18:30:28 GMT -5
Maybe he's not a college motivator. Maybe he's not a strong developmental guy -- maybe he focuses too much on playcalling and not on technique for example. These are right on. Terrible motivator. Did not replace the very experienced original staff w/ experienced replacements. Learned last year (first w/out a veteran team) that you can't coach schemes to the detriment of fundamentals (but still struggling with this). Tries to out-scheme other teams rather than lining up and beating them w/ fundamentals. (Obviously, the lack of fundamentals don't extend to all positions, look at film of Quinn pre and post Weis. I particularly like the "taking a dump" QB-center exchange.) |
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Post by Filo on Nov 12, 2008 19:53:00 GMT -5
Back to Whitlock for a sec -- yeah, "Pear Bryant" is cute and mildly amusing from an emailer or someone posting on message board. Not really what I want to see from an alleged 'journalist' or 'columnist.' Says more about Whitlock that it does about Weis.
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Post by kghoya on Nov 12, 2008 20:27:15 GMT -5
Back to Whitlock for a sec -- yeah, "Pear Bryant" is cute and mildly amusing from an emailer or someone posting on message board. Not really what I want to see from an alleged 'journalist' or 'columnist.' Says more about Whitlock that it does about Weis. exactly...that article reads like something you might find on a message board as opposed to an actual column we get it jason...you dont like charlie weis or notre dame it could also be pointed out that weis took over play calling duties for this week since his oc (haywood) is missing practices due to a death in the family... |
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Nov 14, 2008 0:17:47 GMT -5
jason is still bent about that firing...nothing new to see here If there's truly nothing new to see here, please take the Whitlock-bashing to its proper home at NDNation.com. Some other assorted thoughts: Thanks a ton, former backup Texas C Buck Burnette. If you haven't seen this story yet, here it is. The University of Texas, an institution from which I hold a degree (as if that wasn't obvious), has made a serious effort to overcome a history of racial intolerance. The Texas gridders are no exception to said history -- Darrell Royal was putting all-white teams on the field in 1969. Texas is still portrayed as a backwards, redneck state in the national news media. This is especially true when it comes to football coverage, whether its ABC's choice of a Kenny Chesney tune to kick off the Texas-OU game, or a College Gameday segment on Colt McCoy goin' fishin' with his good ol' boy buddy, Jordan Shipley aw shucks. Someday, I'd like to see a Gameday segment on Michael Crabtree hanging out in Oak Cliff and Dallas, and I'd like the music for the segment to include The Black Angels, Sound Team, Spoon, Trail of Dead, and Bun B. Of course, since Oak Cliff is not located on a ranch, and none of those artists record on Music Row, that will never happen. Comments like Buck Burnette's certainly aren't helping. Yes, he's a 21 year old kid. But his comment was absolutely stupid and inexcusable. The coaches and the AD made the right call in dismissing him. Unfortuately, not only was the comment made, but it put another mark in the "racist" column for the University. I sincerely hope that Buck Burnette AND others who think similarly will learn from his mistake. Nice win for Miami tonight. But how the hell did the 'Canes never find the end zone in the 2nd half? If Va. Tech had come back to win the game, I am certain RDF and FLHoya would be cursing Patrick Nix. I certainly called the BC-Notre Dame game wrong -- Crane wasn't great, but Claussen out-sucked him. Also forgot there's a trophy involved when the Eagles and Irish clash -- Boston College retains the Ireland Trophy for the sixth straight time. Vandy's best shot at getting bowl-eligible is to beat Tennessee in Nashville on November 22nd. The last time the Commodores beat the Vols was 2005. That win snapped a losing streak that had lasted since 1982, which was also the last year Vanderbilt traveled to a bowl game. I would love to see Bobby Johnson's team break the bowl-less streak and simultaneously send Fulmer out in style. West Virginia's best win this season is at UConn. Seriously -- take a look at the Mountaineers schedule. They haven't beaten anyone good. Don't be suprised if they drop games at UL and/or at Pitt under their new idiot coach. Quick check-in on June Jones' SMU team: the Ponies are 1-9 and headed for a repeat of last year's 1-11 record. Next season should be better, but are the 9 remaining SMU alums who care about athletics impressed at all yet? ____________________________________________________ Week 12 Picks for Games That Matter: Notre Dame over Navy Ohio State over Illinois for Illi-Buck (it's a wooden turtle) Auburn upsets UGA in the Oldest Rivalry In the Deep South (hey, Tommy somehow saves his job every season, and this is his last shot) Wisconsin over Minnesota for Paul Bunyan's Axe Maryland over N. Carolina Oregon State over Cal S. Carolina upsets Florida (no FG block this year, hifi) Baylor over TAMU in the Battle of the Brazos Boise State over Idaho in the worst rivalry in CFB Mizzou over Iowa State for the Telephone Trophy Arizona over Oregon SC over Stanford (please prove me wrong, Harbaugh & Co.) Alabama over Mississippi State in CROOM Bowl IV (did you know Sylvester Croom graduated from 'Bama?) ON EDIT: Cincinnati over Louisville for the Keg of Nails (Friday) For November, it's a pretty crummy week for CFB matchups. |
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Post by hifigator on Nov 14, 2008 1:09:00 GMT -5
Austin wrote:
S. Carolina upsets Florida (no FG block this year, hifi)
I don't think it will happen. Our offense is finally lighting it up as expected. But there's no way in hell that I am touching that spread. Aside from the fact that Spurrier has never been a 21 point underdog in his life, I still can't help but think that there will be some kind of let down. Hopefully, we can put it off until next week when the "mighty" Citadel team comes to town. In any case, I will gladly take a 1 point victory Saturday and consider myself lucky.
That being said, my score for the game is 44-13 Florida. If we play like we should and have been, then that would be about right. Spurrier will have a trick play up his sleeve that will work for/set up a touchdown and will probably move the ball enough for another score, but I see it being a field goal. Our good fortune handling the ball can't continue forever, and I see a turnover setting up another Gamecock score -- hopefully another field goal. But we should score early and often. 44-13, you heard it hear first. As for all of you rabble-rousers from the poli-fo, we will have that discussion later.
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Post by FLHoya on Nov 14, 2008 7:31:47 GMT -5
Nice win for Miami tonight. But how the hell did the 'Canes never find the end zone in the 2nd half? If Va. Tech had come back to win the game, I am certain RDF and FLHoya would be cursing Patrick Nix. I still can right?  Miami being 4th in the nation in red zone efficiency is quite the misleading stat, because they settle for so darn many field goals. This is at least the second time this year they put up 16 points (i.e. one TD, 3 FGs), and they blew their gift opportunity to steal the FSU game they didn't deserve b/c they couldn't punch it in from inside the 10 after a botched punt. Patrick Nix seems to come up with a new gadget play every game (last night it was a rather vanilla flip-back from the RB), but he really struggles in the red zone. If I'm calling the plays before UM even leaves the huddle (and this includes that nearly blown-up screen pass on 3rd down on the final drive), I'm sure Bud Foster has got it covered. Do not understand why Javarris James wasn't in more in goal to go situations in the second half. Fortunately the defense and particularly the front seven was superb last night, and they are making tremendous strides in the past few weeks after looking bad at times earlier in the year. Very odd that UNC-Maryland this weekend could ultimately decide the champ in both ACC divisions. |
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 14, 2008 13:09:15 GMT -5
Austin wrote: S. Carolina upsets Florida (no FG block this year, hifi)
I don't think it will happen. Our offense is finally lighting it up as expected. But there's no way in hell that I am touching that spread. Aside from the fact that Spurrier has never been a 21 point underdog in his life, I still can't help but think that there will be some kind of let down. Hopefully, we can put it off until next week when the "mighty" Citadel team comes to town. In any case, I will gladly take a 1 point victory Saturday and consider myself lucky. That being said, my score for the game is 44-13 Florida. If we play like we should and have been, then that would be about right. Spurrier will have a trick play up his sleeve that will work for/set up a touchdown and will probably move the ball enough for another score, but I see it being a field goal. Our good fortune handling the ball can't continue forever, and I see a turnover setting up another Gamecock score -- hopefully another field goal. But we should score early and often. 44-13, you heard it hear first. As for all of you rabble-rousers from the poli-fo, we will have that discussion later. This sounds about right, provided that Florida isn't looking ahead to next week's Battle of the Titans.  |
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Nov 14, 2008 15:23:55 GMT -5
Scores in the S. Carolina series since Spurrier has been at the helm:
2005: Florida 22, S. Carolina 30
2006: S. Carolina 16, Florida 17
2007: Florida 51, S. Carolina 31
History is not always the best guide, but the Gamecocks and Gators have had some close contests recently. Spurrier's squad has won 6 of 7 (albeit against terrible competition), and I just have a feeling about this one. It's not a highly rational pick, but I'll take the Gamecocks in the Swamp (and, as hifi suggested, it might not be a bad idea to take the points if you are the gambling type).
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Post by kghoya on Nov 14, 2008 16:38:13 GMT -5
jason is still bent about that firing...nothing new to see here If there's truly nothing new to see here, please take the Whitlock-bashing to its proper home at NDNation.com. i wasnt the one that posted the original link...just commenting on it maybe ill pm you and look for your ok before posting next time |
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Post by hifigator on Nov 14, 2008 17:07:03 GMT -5
Austin, there are two schools of thought. One of them is the "on a roll" idea. The other is "ripe for an upset/letdown" mentality. Maybe I am just being cautiously optimistic, but this team is showing the type of maturity as a unit that the team two years ago had. On paper, this year's team should have been lights out awesome. Offensively, we have as much depth and talent as any team since at least the 96-97 team which sent more than a dozen players to NFL rosters at some point. And I think the "star" potential is even greater. Fred Taylor was really the only offensive star, followed by Ike Hilliard I guess. It wouldn't surprise me to ultimately see a similar number of offensive players from this year's team on NFL rosters and I think the "star" potential is even greater. Only time will tell.
But our offense has just been clicking like we expected all year. We absolutely shredded Vandy, LSU and Kentucky's defenses and made Georgia and Arkansas' look really bad as well. South Carolina is statistically the best defense in the SEC, but much of that is because the SEC offenses aren't as potent as other years. We are kind of the mirror image of the Big 12 and that is what gives me a bit of optimism, should it come down to a matchup in Miami between us and them for all the marbles. There just aren't any really good defenses in the Big 12. There really aren't any great offenses in the SEC except for ours. I honestly think that our defense would be the best in the Big 12 easily and our offense would be every bit as potent as anything they have to offer as well. That being said, you still have to play the game. I just don't see the Cocks stopping us enough to allow their offense to score enough to win. If we don't play well, then I see something like 27-23 Florida. If we play mediocre, then I see something like 31-17 and if we play well, then I see it something like 44-13.
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Post by kghoya on Nov 14, 2008 17:21:16 GMT -5
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Post by hoya9797 on Nov 14, 2008 17:27:06 GMT -5
It is absolutely unbelievable how out of control the Florida athletic department has become in recent years. Yet, it's Miami that will always be known as the thugs. What a joke. I hope the Gainsville Clown College gets the all sports death penalty. They deserve it.
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 14, 2008 19:30:10 GMT -5
Haven't we been down this road before? Is Calathes related to Teddy Dupay?
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Post by kghoya on Nov 14, 2008 19:51:13 GMT -5
Haven't we been down this road before? Is Calathes related to Teddy Dupay? that's def the first thing i thought of when i saw the headline |
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Nov 15, 2008 16:10:13 GMT -5
With 4:37 left in the 1st quarter, my S. Carolina upset pick looks terrible. Spurrier has really lost his touch -- Florida's defense is very good, but the Gators are getting a lot of help from bad playcalling and an idiotic 2 QB system.
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 15, 2008 17:31:57 GMT -5
After a Badger was taken off the field in an ambulance (he was moving his extremities, thankfully), Tim Brewster declined to try and score, despite decent field position, 2 timeouts and 2 min remaining. Heck, the Gophers got 2 first downs crossed midfield and let the clock run out without ever using a timeout.
Apparently a 21-7 lead is more than enough for Tim Brewster. There is no way that wasted drive doesn't come back to haunt the Gophers. You don't give away points by not trying, and that's exactly what Brewster did. And on the road!
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Post by kghoya on Nov 15, 2008 20:18:21 GMT -5
as a notre dame football fan i was hoping that navy would win to rid the school of weis
they tried their best but navy still couldnt get the win
oh well...at least i get to go to verizon on mon for the hoyas
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Nov 15, 2008 21:22:41 GMT -5
There is no way that wasted drive doesn't come back to haunt the Gophers. Nice call, TBird. This is also known as the Mack Brown end of half strategy circa 2002, so I feel your pain. Tough to criticize Brewster too much in a season of exceeded expectations, but the Gophers played a terrible second half this afternoon (based on the box -- I didn't watch the game). |
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