Anyone familiar with this?

[hifigator]

runyourcarwithwater.com/?hop=jfccorp


I have read assorted articles about adding a water conversion kit to increase fuel efficiency, but I don't have any first hand experience. Has anyone here used such a product and if so, what is the feedback?

I think the only "product" they send you is a manual on how to add the conversion kit. Supposedly, the materials are available at nomal hardware stores and cost around $60. If there isn't a catch, then it seems like a no-brainer.

feedback?

[HoyaSinceBirth]

I thought this was going to be an article on indoor plumbing.

[hifigator]

cute, but I'm not european.

[hifigator]

In general, if a product is remotely as good as something like this would appear to be on the surface, then they don't sell it on the internet or through infomercials. Instead it will be at Lowe's or Home Depot, Wal-Mart etc... I'm just curious if it is a total scam or if it simply isn't as efficient as they suggest.

[SFHoya99]

If it is too good to be true, it probably is.

I love the 56 day money-back guarantee. It must take 100 days to ruin your engine. In the best case, it invalidates your manufacturer's warranty.

[Bando]

It's a total scam.

In related news, did you guys totally see that some guys found Bigfoot?

[atlasfrysmith]

www.cracked.com/article_16484_6-retarded-gas-saving-schemes-people-are-actually-trying.html

[hifigator]

SF, I was thinking more along the lines of "there's no such thing as a free lunch" but your adage works just as well.

I did google and found a couple of "reviews" that ranked "similar" products. They all had a familiarity with each other, even down to the 56 day or 8 week guarantee.

[hifigator]

Bando, what are you suggesting? Bigfoot existed. We just don't have proof because the fossil record is incomplete.

[Bando]

Aug 27, 2008 16:44:18 GMT -5 hifigator said:

Bando, what are you suggesting? Bigfoot existed. We just don't have proof because the fossil record is incomplete.

That's only your theory, it's not a law!

Also, the second law of thermodynamics totally proves that water4gas works.

[The Stig]

There's a bit of truth around it. Water injection systems can give a temporary power boost without increasing fuel consumption. A water injection emergency boost system was a standard feature on all World War II piston engined fighters.

The downside is that it overheated engines pretty quickly, so it could only be used in short bursts. If used right it didn't cause long term damage to the engine, but engine cooling is also a lot better when you're going 400 mph through very cold air. I wouldn't try it on a car.

Turbocharging is a much more effective way to get a lot of power out of a small engine. In the mid 1980's the BMW Formula 1 engine was a turbocharged 1.5 litre, 4 cylinder engine. They still don't know how much power it made, since their dyno only measured up to 1000 horsepower, and they were reaching that without much trouble. And that's with 1980's technology.

[hifigator]

Aug 27, 2008 17:45:27 GMT -5 The Stig said:

There's a bit of truth around it. Water injection systems can give a temporary power boost without increasing fuel consumption. A water injection emergency boost system was a standard feature on all World War II piston engined fighters.

The downside is that it overheated engines pretty quickly, so it could only be used in short bursts. If used right it didn't cause long term damage to the engine, but engine cooling is also a lot better when you're going 400 mph through very cold air. I wouldn't try it on a car.

Turbocharging is a much more effective way to get a lot of power out of a small engine. In the mid 1980's the BMW Formula 1 engine was a turbocharged 1.5 litre, 4 cylinder engine. They still don't know how much power it made, since their dyno only measured up to 1000 horsepower, and they were reaching that without much trouble. And that's with 1980's technology.

That was kind of what I was hinting at. I know the technology is out there, but it isn't cost effective to say the least. I expect that technology will solve much of that problem, but exactly how much and exactly when still very much remains to be seen.

In any case, I certainly don't have any confidence in some sort of magic manual that is mysteriously distributed via internet pop-up ads. The only reason I even gave it a peek was because it was an actual link from the NY Times site. I figured they probably wouldn't be involved in a total scam ... would they?

[The Stig]

For what it's worth, here's the Wikipedia blurb on the subject: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_injection_(engines)

The important part: "Fuel economy can be improved with water injection, although the effect on most engines with no other modification, like leaning out the mixture, appears to be rather limited or even negligible in some cases."

[hifigator]

Here's the link to Brown's Gas, as it is known, named after the Bulgarian scientist famous for work in the field:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown%27s_gas#Brown.27s_gas