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Post by hifigator on Aug 19, 2008 13:29:41 GMT -5
He's paid more than Billy D. or Urban Meyer. I can certainly see why ....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 13:59:30 GMT -5
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Post by hifigator on Aug 19, 2008 14:36:17 GMT -5
Math is hard, and I guess I have to recognize the new contracts since school starts next week.
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Post by hifigator on Aug 19, 2008 14:53:20 GMT -5
On the grander scale, what does everyone think about the ever increasing salaries of both coaches and players alike? I don't have much of a solution for it, but I recognize the problem. In fairness, I think the NBA has the best format for controlling this runaway dragon.
I saw where Stephen Jackson was holding out. Supposedly the money that he was seeking was in the LaDanian Tomlinson range, as the Rams pointed out. He (or his agent) countered by pointing out that that contract was from 4 years ago. In this instance, I certainly see both sides and I can't really knock anyone for getting all that they can for themselves. But by the same token, it has simply gotten out of hand.
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 19, 2008 22:09:32 GMT -5
On the grander scale, what does everyone think about the ever increasing salaries of both coaches and players alike? I don't have much of a solution for it, but I recognize the problem. In fairness, I think the NBA has the best format for controlling this runaway dragon. I saw where Stephen Jackson was holding out. Supposedly the money that he was seeking was in the LaDanian Tomlinson range, as the Rams pointed out. He (or his agent) countered by pointing out that that contract was from 4 years ago. In this instance, I certainly see both sides and I can't really knock anyone for getting all that they can for themselves. But by the same token, it has simply gotten out of hand. I took my son and a couple of friends to the Yankee game this weekend... last season for Yankee stadium and all. Fortunately, I was the beneficiary of some very nice, corporate seats. Good seats, yes. About 10 rows from the field, down the right field line, about where the infield and outfield meet. Price of the tickets? $190.00 Each! Four guys going to an afternoon baseball game? $760.... before hot dogs! Does anyone think that is remotely reasonable? And next year they'll be in the new, $1 billion plus stadium, with fewer seats. How much will tickets cost then? A Rod makes $30 million/year, Jeter makes $20, Etc. Someone has to pay for that. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 19, 2008 22:26:22 GMT -5
I took my son and a couple of friends to the Yankee game this weekend... last season for Yankee stadium and all. Fortunately, I was the beneficiary of some very nice, corporate seats. Good seats, yes. About 10 rows from the field, down the right field line, about where the infield and outfield meet. Price of the tickets? $190.00 Each! Four guys going to an afternoon baseball game? $760.... before hot dogs! Does anyone think that is remotely reasonable? And next year they'll be in the new, $1 billion plus stadium, with fewer seats. How much will tickets cost then? A Rod makes $30 million/year, Jeter makes $20, Etc. Someone has to pay for that. You think that was expensive? Try repeating the same outing next year in the new Yankee Stadium.  |
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Post by RDF on Aug 20, 2008 0:21:03 GMT -5
Better question--why would you choose to go pay that to see this year's Yankees?  |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 20, 2008 11:25:56 GMT -5
On the grander scale, what does everyone think about the ever increasing salaries of both coaches and players alike? I don't have much of a solution for it, but I recognize the problem. In fairness, I think the NBA has the best format for controlling this runaway dragon. I saw where Stephen Jackson was holding out. Supposedly the money that he was seeking was in the LaDanian Tomlinson range, as the Rams pointed out. He (or his agent) countered by pointing out that that contract was from 4 years ago. In this instance, I certainly see both sides and I can't really knock anyone for getting all that they can for themselves. But by the same token, it has simply gotten out of hand. I don't understand how a libertarian could be for restricting the labor marketplace. As long as you are willing to pay ridiculous ticket prices, watch it on tv and pay huge money for sports clothing, etc., the owners will pay coaches and players to win. It's not great for the small markets, and it isn't great PR, and it certainly doesn't promote too much parity, but if someone is willing to pay, why would we do this? ---- HOWEVER, you want a reasonable solution? Exclude sporting events from a deductible expense for tax purposes. Company tickets have driven up prices by at least 30-some % simply based on it being a deductible expense for them versus non-deductible for individuals. It's not fair, but you'd begin to see demand drop. Small business owners who use it primarily for personal use would be the first to go (unfortunately), but when that $180,000 post-tax box suddenly becomes a $250,000 post-tax box, someone will notice at some big companies as well. It won't matter everywhere but it will have some effect. |
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Post by hifigator on Aug 20, 2008 16:46:29 GMT -5
SF, I didn't exactly say that I was for restricting the labor practice. But I do see things getting out of hand. You are correct in that the solution would be a massive boycott from the customers -- US! I think it wouldn't take much. If a handful of the talking heads got together -- Sporting News Radio, ESPN Radio and maybe a handful of larger independents could organize a boycott weekend for baseball. If all of a sudden attendence went down 20% for 3 straight games, under the guise of a statement to stop this absurdity then maybe the owners and agents would get the message. Ultimately it comes down to us. As long as we keep going, then they will keep jacking the price up.
You bring up an interesting point on corporate tickets. If all that money is tax deductible then they are willing to pay a higher than normal price, since the out of pocket doesn't reflect the inflated ticket price. As little as I hate raising taxes, that might be one that I would go for.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Aug 20, 2008 21:18:11 GMT -5
On the grander scale, what does everyone think about the ever increasing salaries of both coaches and players alike? I don't have much of a solution for it, but I recognize the problem. In fairness, I think the NBA has the best format for controlling this runaway dragon. I saw where Stephen Jackson was holding out. Supposedly the money that he was seeking was in the LaDanian Tomlinson range, as the Rams pointed out. He (or his agent) countered by pointing out that that contract was from 4 years ago. In this instance, I certainly see both sides and I can't really knock anyone for getting all that they can for themselves. But by the same token, it has simply gotten out of hand. I took my son and a couple of friends to the Yankee game this weekend... last season for Yankee stadium and all. Fortunately, I was the beneficiary of some very nice, corporate seats. Good seats, yes. About 10 rows from the field, down the right field line, about where the infield and outfield meet. Price of the tickets? $190.00 Each! Four guys going to an afternoon baseball game? $760.... before hot dogs! Does anyone think that is remotely reasonable? And next year they'll be in the new, $1 billion plus stadium, with fewer seats. How much will tickets cost then? A Rod makes $30 million/year, Jeter makes $20, Etc. Someone has to pay for that. Corporate seats are nice and all but I paid a grand total of 100 for two people (25 each for bleacher seats on StubHub and 25 each for the Yankee Clipper ferry to the game). So, it can be done cheaply. |
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 21, 2008 0:19:47 GMT -5
Corporate seats are nice and all but I paid a grand total of 100 for two people (25 each for bleacher seats on StubHub and 25 each for the Yankee Clipper ferry to the game). So, it can be done cheaply. I wasn't suggesting there was no other way to get into the stadium. And I was indeed fortunate to be handed tickets I would never have paid for myself. But still, 4 good seats to a regular season Yankee game at face value... $760? My son, who joined me at the game, still has the ticket from his first Yankee game 22 years ago. Seats were not quite as good, but close. They were $8.25. 22 years later, $190. |
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