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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2008 13:10:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2008 15:09:37 GMT -5
Why would he?
Only Seminoles commit crimes. Gators merely have misunderstandings... which Lord Urban quickly "reprimands" them for, thus maintaining harmony in the universe.
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Post by hifigator on Jul 10, 2008 15:43:11 GMT -5
In all honesty, I had the link pasted and was going to post it earlier today but when I logged in I got distracted and didn't. It sure looks like he's got some major issues. There isn't any excuse for whatever happened. One of Teddy's quotes was "it got a little rough."
One of the worst parts about this story is that Teddy was in south Florida playing in an alumni game for charity organized by Udonis Haslem a couple of weeks ago, but AFTER the incident. At the time nobody (except Teddy of course) knew anything about it. I seriously doubt that anyone in charge would have let him play under those circumstances. For the record, he is not getting much love down here in the Gator Nation.
His "gambling" issue, to me wasn't a big deal. Obviously the NCAA thinks differently and I understand why. Still, essentially what he did was bet on the Gators against Tennessee, not so coincidentally in the game where he made an early return from injury. I understand that you can't do that per NCAA rules and understand why, but I view it entirely differently than if for instance he had bet against the Gators. In any case, my point is that prior to this incident in Utah, I was somewhat sympathetic to Teddy, but not anymore.
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Post by hifigator on Jul 10, 2008 15:46:57 GMT -5
By the way Buff, at no point have I ever suggested that "only Seminoles commit crimes." Nor have I suggested that the Gators are free from their share of bad apples. I have however pointed out the significant and repeated differences between the way Florida handles those bad apples. In this particular case, the University isn't involved at all, aside from a might of image tarnishing. I guess theoretically they could expunge him from the record books or something, but I don't think that would be appropriate. If you go back well after the fact and edit the record books everytime a former student athlete gets in trouble there would be quite an edited record book for almost every institution.
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Post by hifigator on Jul 10, 2008 15:49:43 GMT -5
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 10, 2008 17:28:02 GMT -5
His "gambling" issue, to me wasn't a big deal. Obviously the NCAA thinks differently and I understand why. Still, essentially what he did was bet on the Gators against Tennessee, not so coincidentally in the game where he made an early return from injury. I understand that you can't do that per NCAA rules and understand why, but I view it entirely differently than if for instance he had bet against the Gators. You've got to be kidding HiFi. College basketball players betting on college basketball games? Doesn't matter how it starts out or for whom they are betting. You get in that area, and pretty soon you are open to blackmail, to pressure to bet against your team, to provide info on injuries, or just to be seen Not betting For your team in certain games...another clear signal. There is no way that ANY college athlete in ANY sport should be betting on college games.
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Post by hifigator on Jul 11, 2008 14:42:44 GMT -5
His "gambling" issue, to me wasn't a big deal. Obviously the NCAA thinks differently and I understand why. Still, essentially what he did was bet on the Gators against Tennessee, not so coincidentally in the game where he made an early return from injury. I understand that you can't do that per NCAA rules and understand why, but I view it entirely differently than if for instance he had bet against the Gators. You've got to be kidding HiFi. College basketball players betting on college basketball games? Doesn't matter how it starts out or for whom they are betting. You get in that area, and pretty soon you are open to blackmail, to pressure to bet against your team, to provide info on injuries, or just to be seen Not betting For your team in certain games...another clear signal. There is no way that ANY college athlete in ANY sport should be betting on college games. I understand that. Like I said, it is 100% off limits. All I was meaning is that I don't think there was any malicious intent nor was there any "fixing" involved whatsoever. I think it was simply exercising bad judgment. Again, I'm not saying that makes it "OK," just pointing out that it isn't the same thing as point shaving or fixing. I think sometimes the National coverage didn't really make that clear. When someone hears that he bet on Gator games, there is almost an implicit scandal implication. Either way, his latest troubles leave little room for any interpretation.
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