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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jun 4, 2008 15:36:32 GMT -5
Listen we did recruit him right? He attended our midnight madness. We need another big body down low. I know some people might think he is a risk because he recently left two ACC schools. I know others will say we don't have a scholly available.
I say if this kid is good and is willing to play for us we go balls to the wall trying to land this guy. The numbers as far as scholly's available will work themselves out. This is big time basketball and the attrition rate will always be a factor in most successful programs. If he fits what we want to do go after him! Worry about the scholly conundrum later.
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Post by vcjack on Jun 4, 2008 15:39:39 GMT -5
Gus wanted to go to a place where he would be the star in the front court and lost interest when we got Monroe. It doesn't seem like he's willing to be "another big body" or just a cog in the wheel
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Post by balla on Jun 4, 2008 15:44:42 GMT -5
He has a PIMP. Players with pimps normally end up at these schools: Memphis USC West Virginia Kansas Kansas State Kentucky
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 4, 2008 15:46:15 GMT -5
He's not going to be able to play this year. I don't know why anyone thinks a player who was ENROLLED and therefore transferring is getting a waiver from the NCAA basically because they underestimated the ACC.
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Post by balla on Jun 4, 2008 15:48:18 GMT -5
He's not going to be able to play this year. I don't know why anyone thinks a player who was ENROLLED and therefore transferring is getting a waiver from the NCAA basically because they underestimated the ACC. SF, I think that he is going to get the waiver and play this season. But we will see. I would take him if he could play this season, but he would have to leave his "handlers" at the door.
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Post by moe09 on Jun 4, 2008 15:53:03 GMT -5
If he's got a pimp what was Georgetown doing involved with him?
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Post by balla on Jun 4, 2008 15:54:23 GMT -5
If he's got a pimp what was Georgetown doing involved with him? You notice that he did NOT come to Georgetown... Georgetown recruits the kid and his immediate family. Georgetown, will NOT play the game with the parasites(coaches, 'trainers', street-agents, cousin pooky)...
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Post by kchoya on Jun 4, 2008 15:55:57 GMT -5
He's not going to be able to play this year. I don't know why anyone thinks a player who was ENROLLED and therefore transferring is getting a waiver from the NCAA basically because they underestimated the ACC. SF, I think that he is going to get the waiver and play this season. But we will see. I would take him if he could play this season, but he would have to leave his "handlers" at the door. Why would he get a waiver? 1. Signs LOI with VT 2. VT shooting happen 3. He wants to back out of LOI; VT releases him from LOI 4. Commits to UMCB; enrolls for second semester of 07-08 school year 5. ACC denies petition - Gilchrist must cannot play until 2nd semester of 08-09 season 6. months later, Gilchrist leaves College Park I don't see why this guy should get a waiver from the normal one-year waiting period after a transfer. Back to the original post, with Monroe and Sims this year, and Riley and Braswell next year, do we need another post player?
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Post by moe09 on Jun 4, 2008 15:56:32 GMT -5
Any word on who's looking at him at this point?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 4, 2008 15:58:50 GMT -5
He's not going to be able to play this year. I don't know why anyone thinks a player who was ENROLLED and therefore transferring is getting a waiver from the NCAA basically because they underestimated the ACC. SF, I think that he is going to get the waiver and play this season. But we will see. I would take him if he could play this season, but he would have to leave his "handlers" at the door. The only waivers I have ever heard of involve going to closer to home so that the player can be with a sick relative. Given the circumstances of his decommital, the fact that the ACC told him he'd have to sit out, then turned down TWO appeals -- why would the NCAA be more understanding/merciful? This is the NCAA -- they don't care about the athletes.
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Post by balla on Jun 4, 2008 16:01:32 GMT -5
SF, I think that he is going to get the waiver and play this season. But we will see. I would take him if he could play this season, but he would have to leave his "handlers" at the door. Why would he get a waiver? 1. Signs LOI with VT 2. VT shooting happen 3. He wants to back out of LOI; VT releases him from LOI 4. Commits to UMCB; enrolls for second semester of 07-08 school year 5. ACC denies petition - Gilchrist must cannot play until 2nd semester of 08-09 season 6. months later, Gilchrist leaves College Park I don't see why this guy should get a waiver from the normal one-year waiting period after a transfer. Back to the original post, with Monroe and Sims this year, and Riley and Braswell next year, do we need another post player? He really should not. But he would not be transferring again for just a one semester difference, if he was not going to get the waiver. Unless the check has cleared from Huggins, Calipari... No Hoya in their right mind would count on Braswell. That is not a shot at Braswell, just being practical. Don't know what to expect from Vaughn. Plus this year is just Sims and Monroe. SF. You are correct in theory, and I don't disagree. But I think that he has already gotten the heads up from the NCAA that he will get the waiver. Again, we will see.
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Post by moe09 on Jun 4, 2008 16:01:41 GMT -5
If he's got a pimp what was Georgetown doing involved with him? You notice that he did NOT come to Georgetown... Georgetown recruits the kid and his immediate family. Georgetown, will NOT play the game with the parasites(coaches, 'trainers', street-agents, cousin pooky)... Whoa, whoa, whoa... let's lay off cousin pooky.. he's my boy. Plus, he bought me that sweet Rolex...
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jun 4, 2008 16:17:29 GMT -5
If he has a PIMP and cant play this year that is one thing and I agree we should not touch.
However (in my thickest NYC accent)
I do not agree with most of you who are willing to sacrifice the 2008 season by having 9 scholly players. We've had enough sacrifical seasons from 90-2006. I want to play every season with a chance to win big. I agree that we are loaded in 2009 if Monroe sticks around but that is a big IF. We need to view his stay at GTown as a one and done thing. From what I hear as far as being a good player in college Gus is more of a sure thing then any bigs we have coming in sans Monroe this year and into the future..
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Post by vcjack on Jun 4, 2008 16:24:57 GMT -5
If he has a PIMP and cant play this year that is one thing and I agree we should not touch. However (in my thickest NYC accent) I do not agree with most of you who are willing to sacrifice the 2008 season by having 9 scholly players. We've had enough sacrifical seasons from 90-2006. I want to play every season with a chance to win big. I agree that we are loaded in 2009 if Monroe sticks around but that is a big IF. We need to view his stay at GTown as a one and done thing. From what I hear as far as being a good player in college Gus is more of a sure thing then any bigs we have coming in sans Monroe this year and into the future.. I'm pretty sure everyone would want a big with his talent to come in next season but I really don't think he'd be interested. He didn't want to share the spotlight with Greg and that hasn't changed. And even after this season he would have to compete with potentially Greg, Braswell, Henry, and Riley. Its really hard to find someone with the talent to have an impact but is willing to take a complimentary role for the good of the team and when you do find one (like PEJr) you've struck gold.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jun 4, 2008 16:29:52 GMT -5
I think with his current situation he probably just wants to play bball this coming season regardless of who he has to share time with.
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Post by vcjack on Jun 4, 2008 16:39:16 GMT -5
I think with his current situation he probably just wants to play bball this coming season regardless of who he has to share time with. Perhaps, but he could probably still find what he's looking for at some other universities, paticularly WVU
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Post by prhoya on Jun 4, 2008 17:40:10 GMT -5
Balla or gurus, how do Gus and Braswell's games compare?
I'm thinking Gus thinks of himself as a one- or two-and-done.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 4, 2008 18:09:21 GMT -5
This year we will have front court players (in addition to 2/3 Freeman and 3/4 Nikita) Monroe Summers Sims
Next year in '09 we add Vaughan Braswell Riley Thompson
We don't need any more bigs. Yes, it would be great if we could get one '09 guys right now, but we can't. Short of that, we don't want to add a big who will be here 3-4 years. We will be thin this year, and loaded the next.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Jun 4, 2008 19:25:05 GMT -5
I continue to ask why having 9 schollie players is such a big deal. We play 7-8 guys every year. That's it. The reports of our "thinness" seem greatly exaggerated. We made the Final Four with 7 guys playing 10+ minutes per game. If we have 7-8 quality guys (which we do) what does Gilchrist get us?
The guys can line up 5-on-5 in practice. We have a reserve guard and a reserve forward. Done.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jun 4, 2008 19:38:00 GMT -5
9 is a big deal because anything can happen. 9 is less than you need. You want to be able to atleast go 5 on 5 with 10 scholly players.
I dont care about 09 and us being POTENTIALLY loaded. We must play for next year. Monroe is a 1 and done just off potential. There are no longtime fixes anymore with the type of players we are recruiting. Year to year is now the way to go. If Gilchrist is good enough to play next year and wants to come here bring him on.
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