Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jun 11, 2008 15:37:44 GMT -5
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Post by strummer8526 on Jun 11, 2008 16:34:03 GMT -5
Wow, when I read the name of the thread, my first instinct was "this is posted in the wrong place." Nice to see a Hoya in the running.
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Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jun 11, 2008 17:05:43 GMT -5
Yes, I almost put it in the Blue and Gray board.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jun 11, 2008 18:34:29 GMT -5
If he was your classmate, doesn't that make him too old? Just kidding.
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Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jun 11, 2008 22:13:01 GMT -5
I guess he is old enough, Ed. ;D
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Post by happyhoya1979 on Jun 12, 2008 23:09:40 GMT -5
I think we are going to get a Hoya as Obama's VP.
Obama cannot pick anyone who was in favor of the war and not look foolish. That kills virtually all the Democratic Senators, including Hillary and does in Evan Bayh as well.
Of the pool of candidates who opposed the war and who can also get the ticket votes only former military types like Jones and Wes Clark or Senator Webb fit the bill. Jones is far more impressive than Clark, who proved himself to be a dismal campaigner in his failed 2004 bid carrying maybe one primary state. JOnes has even been mentioned by McCain as one of the first people he would go to for a top level spot in his administration. He is the only candidate wanted by both parties! That alone indicates he must be doing something right politically to engender that kind of affection.
Mark Warner and Tim Kaine have no military background. Also, Waner's reputation as a businessman is way overrated. He did not build any companies-he was a lawyer who got paid for his services in stock which then appreciated. His brokerage "function" was more akin to being a high priced impressario or pimp than an entrepreneur. Kaine was a Jesuit missionary. The Republican machine that is going to try and take down Obama would have a field day with both these Virginia boys. Obama needs someone with a military background who can hit back. Neither of these guys can do this.
So the odds are actually pretty good that either Webb or Jones will be the man.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jun 13, 2008 18:45:05 GMT -5
If the Democrats select a male, look for McCain to select a woman and make a strong pitch for Hillary's voters.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Jun 13, 2008 19:05:27 GMT -5
If the Democrats select a male, look for McCain to select a woman and make a strong pitch for Hillary's voters. Honest question- who other than Condi could be viable among GOP women? It seems like selecting her is making Obama's "Bush third term" case for him, so they would have to look elsewhere, right?
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jun 13, 2008 19:31:02 GMT -5
If the Democrats select a male, look for McCain to select a woman and make a strong pitch for Hillary's voters. Honest question- who other than Condi could be viable among GOP women? It seems like selecting her is making Obama's "Bush third term" case for him, so they would have to look elsewhere, right? How about Kay Bailey Hutchinson?
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jun 19, 2008 9:31:16 GMT -5
How about Kay Bailey Hutchinson? Unlikely. First, her public comments on it have been negative (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/DN-hutchison_19met.ART.State.Edition1.461af24.html), although that must always be taken with a grain of salt: "It's not something I want," Ms. Hutchison said of the vice presidency. "I'd so much more like to keep helping Texas. I hope I'm not in a position where I'm considered."
Ms. Hutchison added that she had not talked to Mr. McCain, who is all but assured the GOP presidential nomination, about running with him, nor have they discussed any of his prospective running mates.Speculation is that she wants to be the governor of Texas after Perry is done. In terms of other possible female VP picks, SurveyUSA seems to think Carly Fiorina is a strong possibility, given all the polling they're doing with her as his running mate.
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Post by theexorcist on Jun 19, 2008 10:55:38 GMT -5
Sarah Palin - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin - has been mentioned. Pros - she's popular. Cons - Alaska is a Republican stronghold. Oh - and Carly Fiorina did poorly at DuPont and annoyed everyone at HP. She was good at self-promotion. If you're going to do business, do someone who was successful (Meg Whitman at eBay has been mentioned).
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jun 19, 2008 12:33:51 GMT -5
Kay Bailey Hutchinson made the same reply all possible VPs are making and it's a non-response.
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Post by Bando on Jun 19, 2008 13:34:37 GMT -5
Sarah Palin - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin - has been mentioned. Pros - she's popular. Cons - Alaska is a Republican stronghold. Oh - and Carly Fiorina did poorly at DuPont and annoyed everyone at HP. She was good at self-promotion. If you're going to do business, do someone who was successful (Meg Whitman at eBay has been mentioned). I don't know about the Alaska GOP stronghold. Polling has been pretty good for Obama so far, and his first national ad buy included AK. Not saying Obama's going to win it, but he might make McCain have to defend it.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jun 19, 2008 19:03:20 GMT -5
Sarah Palin - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin - has been mentioned. Pros - she's popular. Cons - Alaska is a Republican stronghold. Oh - and Carly Fiorina did poorly at DuPont and annoyed everyone at HP. She was good at self-promotion. If you're going to do business, do someone who was successful (Meg Whitman at eBay has been mentioned). Sarah Palin is also fairly attractive for a woman her age: www.talkingpointsmemo.com/images/sarah-palin-muck.jpgRe: Kay Bailey, I have never voted for her, despite the fact that she has a UT Law degree, because in my opinion she takes positions based solely on whether they will further her political career. Here's a good example from a few years back, when KBH shot down proposals that would have reformed a failing federally-created program and devolved decision-making power to the states. Hardly sounds like a Republican to me. But the program was Amtrak, and KBH happened to be chairwoman of the Surface Transportation Subcommittee at the time... query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D00E2D61F3FF93AA15754C0A9659C8B63&partner=rssnyt&emc=rssAlso (though it pains me to say this) I am not sure putting a Texas Republican on the ticket is such a great idea. They are not too popular throughout the nation at this time, and McCain is going to take Texas anyway.
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