SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 15, 2008 13:57:01 GMT -5
I can't find the thread, but someone asked what Calipari has done that other coaches can't/haven't. From Luke Winn's interview of Joey Dorsey:
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LW: Those old Laurinburg guys -- Anderson, Dozier and Kareem Cooper; do you live with any of them at Memphis?
JD: We actually have a house -- 11 bedrooms, all basketball players, so mostly everybody stays there.
LW: How did you find that place?
JD: It's an on-campus thing; Coach Cal did it. It's almost like a mansion. You can get lost in there. It's decked out, too; the living room's got 42-inch flat screens where we can watch game tapes, or review player personnel. Or we can go upstairs where there's a theater, and just watch movies.
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Something tells me non-basketball players don't have access to that kind of on-campus housing.
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Post by swhoya on Apr 15, 2008 14:00:17 GMT -5
Wow. I have no idea what the rules are governing this sort of thing, but I lived down the hall from a couple of players one year, and I can tell you that there wasn't a movie theater to be found in Copley.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 15, 2008 14:01:58 GMT -5
Furthermore, Fedex has provided paid summer internships to 25+ players since Calipari came to Memphis -- this according to Forbes -- I wonder if those are open all comers as well?
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Post by jgalt on Apr 15, 2008 14:02:56 GMT -5
and how can somebody say this isnt similar to giving a prospect gifts- "oh and here is the mansion that you will be living in" has a very similar effect to "here is a new car you can have at half price if you go here"
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 15, 2008 14:04:25 GMT -5
This is not a new approach - Kentucky (the Joe B. Hall Wildcat Lodge) has worked this sort of scam for years and little Ricky is built Billy Minardi Hall in Louisville. At least you have to give UL credit for allowing commoners access.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 15, 2008 14:07:41 GMT -5
and how can somebody say this isnt similar to giving a prospect gifts- "oh and here is the mansion that you will be living in" has a very similar effect to "here is a new car you can have at half price if you go here" But the NCAA doesn't investigate people who make them money unless there's an outside investigation going (journalists, federal indictment, etc). They'll quash anyone where they don't get a buck (see diploma mills, prep schools, etc.) but go after a Final Four team? No thanks.
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Post by swhoya on Apr 15, 2008 14:10:25 GMT -5
Melo giving tickets to go see a (gasp!) basketball game??! The NERVE.
But hand someone keys to a mansion and that's ok, so long as you give the keys back in 4 years (or one or two years...)?
NCAA is the dumbest organization ever.
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Post by Dhall on Apr 15, 2008 14:29:21 GMT -5
I think it's more relevant to ask where the former players are living 5-10 years after leaving. My guess is that the Calipari-coached players are not in the nicest digs while most Gtown players are probably doing fine. Anybody with a head on their shoulders, or at least their parents, would ask that question. So this doesn't really bother me.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 15, 2008 14:36:21 GMT -5
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Post by NCHoya on Apr 15, 2008 15:00:59 GMT -5
Not sure how this thing at Memphis is not investigated. It would seem to be too obvious for the NCAA to overlook. There must be regular students living in this mansion since it is on-campus.
Calipari is bad news for cbb. I wish he would just go back to the NBA.
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Post by derhoya on Apr 15, 2008 15:27:23 GMT -5
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the LW story sounds like a house...a very nice one at that. if the statement above is correct, I think a 'house' may slip out of the jurisdiction of this rule. but then again it sounded like it's owned by memphis so who knows...
let's be honest. some organizations within GU, both athletic and non athletic organization, get preferential treatment when it comes to housing... GU Housing doesn't give out the 42 inch tvs but the choice 'on campus' houses along 37, 36th, N, O and wherever else can have 'strings' pulled.
I'm glad I wasn't with 11 other dudes from my team. we would have decorated very poorly.
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Post by moe09 on Apr 15, 2008 15:35:49 GMT -5
Sure, they can "pull strings" to get you choice on-campus housing on 37th, 36th, N, O, etc., but those houses don't have movie theaters or flat screens nor are they mansions. Those "strings" are also pulled by many organizations, not just basketball or football. I'm pretty sure that most sports at Georgetown are guaranteed one of the better houses on campus... Is that really a viable comparison?
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Post by moe09 on Apr 15, 2008 15:37:23 GMT -5
SF, can you post a link to the interview?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 15, 2008 16:04:08 GMT -5
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Post by moe09 on Apr 15, 2008 16:21:37 GMT -5
I had been thinking about why Calipari could be a sleeze bag the other day. I then realized that it was the connected to the following question, "If I'm a basketball recruit, why on earth would I want to go to Memphis?" It really just didn't add up. But, I guess if there's a mansion "that you can get lost in" with flat screens and a movie theater it might not be a bad choice.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 15, 2008 17:30:23 GMT -5
I'm surprised that page didn't claim UK Basketball invented the internet too. I love this totally-self-centered passage: "In the early 1950's, the Southeastern Conference voted to discontinue the SEC Tournament, starting with the 1952-53 season. Many of the members voted for this because it was felt the tournament infringed on the start of spring football and because Kentucky, which had won 13 of the 19 tournaments ever played, so thoroughly dominated the event that it was not considered worthwhile. The tournament would not be reinstituted until 1979, when even the football-crazy SEC schools figured out that a post-season tournament could generate revenues for the schools. This practice handicapped UK severely as they went 25 years without a tournament, which prevented them from a number of potential victories and allowed schools (and coaches) from other conferences (which did hold post-season conference tournaments) to gain ground in terms of all-time wins."
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Post by theexorcist on Apr 15, 2008 17:34:48 GMT -5
I had been thinking about why Calipari could be a sleeze bag the other day. I then realized that it was the connected to the following question, "If I'm a basketball recruit, why on earth would I want to go to Memphis?" It really just didn't add up. But, I guess if there's a mansion "that you can get lost in" with flat screens and a movie theater it might not be a bad choice. That's unfair. People in Memphis love their team. There were lots of shirts and paintings on businesses that mentioned the Tigers. Remember, until they got the Grizzlies, there was no pro team. UMemphis was it. That still shows (oh, and their band is great).
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Post by moe09 on Apr 15, 2008 18:18:40 GMT -5
I didn't say anything about the people. The people could be great. But if you're from the East Coast/West Coast why go to Memphis when there are many great established programs near you?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 15, 2008 18:23:11 GMT -5
I didn't say anything about the people. The people could be great. But if you're from the East Coast/West Coast why go to Memphis when there are many great established programs near you? Graceland? Ribs? Under the table cash payments?
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Post by moe09 on Apr 15, 2008 18:29:42 GMT -5
That's more along the lines of what I was thinking. I'm sure there are some good fans in Memphis, but fans aren't usually what bring the big recruits.
Although, let's not underestimate the pull of Graceland on youngsters these days..
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