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Post by hoyahebrew on Mar 25, 2008 22:13:40 GMT -5
No need to get into our coach's shortcomings; they've been well documented here. However, his three assistants contribute very little to the in-game strategy or lack of. I, for one, would like to see a senior assistant on the bench in the George Blaney mold to help decipher what's going on. Talent at Princeton and here have at times masked his poor decision-making, preventing his teams from taking that next step.
No, he'll never be a Billy Donovan, Tom Izzo or even a Bob McKillop. That's ok. Just get him some help!
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Post by GUHoya07 on Mar 25, 2008 22:18:59 GMT -5
One of the dumbest posts I have ever seen. His shortcomings have been well documented? what? He's about as perfect as I could ever ask for from a coach, I dont know what you're looking for. He's done everything right here since day one. Even the greatest hall of fame coaches make mistakes once in a while. What are you looking for?
Also, why attack the assistants? Robert Burke is our senior assistant and the others are in their first year. This is so irrational.
Finally, I dont understand how you can claim that talent has masked his "poor decision making". He actually took a Princeton team with very little talent relative to the rest of the league in his first year there and won the Ivy League. Also, he took a bunch of freshmen and far from superstar upperclassmen in his first year at Georgetown and helped make us competitive against the best teams in the Big East. Most people would argue that we havent had the most talented team but our coach has developed them and made them into the best players they could possibly be.
Im just really confused by your post. Bob McKillop? Really? Sure, hes a great coach but I'd like to see him have more success at the high major level than JT III. I'd also take JT III over any other coach in the country, PERIOD.
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 25, 2008 22:19:31 GMT -5
What in the hell are you talking about? Seriously, this might be the worst second post I have ever seen. Check that, worst post I've ever, period (at least not coming from one of the usual offenders).
How do you know what his coaches are contributing? How do you know why his teams haven't been "taking that next step"? And what "step" is that? We made it to a damn Final Four in his THIRD YEAR! The only step beyond that is a championship, which...correct me if I'm wrong, fewer than 25 coaches have won in the last 3 decades. And how many coaches are there in the game? A couple of hundred? Over 3 decades, maybe thousands of DI coaches? We have one who took us from dirt-eating to a Final Four in 3 years and you're going to complain about the "next step" which most coaches NEVER attain.
I certainly hope this was a joke.
ON EDIT (just because I'm so completely baffled by this): What "documenting" are you referring to exactly? Even the worst talking heads show love for JTIII.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Mar 25, 2008 22:22:36 GMT -5
bad post
the man has a final four, two big east regular season title, a big east tournament title, a sweet 16 appearance and three NCAA appearances in four seasons at the helm.
me thinks he's doing just fine
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Post by hoyahebrew on Mar 25, 2008 22:32:53 GMT -5
I've obviously touched a raw nerve here. There have been an abundance of knocks against this coach here and for good reason. Now there's angst? In the aftermath of one of the most embarrassing losses this program has ever had, I believe that frustration has made a few of you into a need to be Thompson Kool-Aid drinkers. JT3 is getting no help from his buddies on the sidelines. They're more suited to be ballboys at Yates.
What we really needed Sunday was Spencer Gloger. Ask the esteemed coach who he is. Maybe he has some eligibility left.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 25, 2008 22:35:57 GMT -5
I've obviously touched a raw nerve here. There have been an abundance of knocks against this coach here and for good reason. Now there's angst? In the aftermath of one of the most embarrassing losses this program has ever had, I believe that frustration has made a few of you into a need to be Thompson Kool-Aid drinkers. JT3 is getting no help from his buddies on the sidelines. They're more suited to be ballboys at Yates. What we really needed Sunday was Spencer Gloger. Ask the esteemed coach who he is. Maybe he has some eligibility left. Rob Burke forgot more about basketball tonight than you'll ever know. Frankly, this post and others you've made are stretching the outer boundaries of worthlessness. If you want embarassing, ask around about Spencer Gloger and get back to us. That comment was just so absurd that I think you're a parody poster.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Mar 25, 2008 22:39:15 GMT -5
read my post very carefully
I have never bashed JTIII and this was not, in my opinion, one of the most embarrassing losses in school history. It was a tough loss. It was a difficult loss to swallow. It hurt a lot to lose to a team I think we're better than. But it wasn't embarrassing.
It was a loss that happened because we were playing a team an hour away from its campus that has the hottest player in the tournament, a kind whistle, the added support of north carolina fans and one of the kindest whistles I've ever seen. and oh yeah, to add to all of that, Davidson is a pretty good team without all of that help.
I don't know how long you've claimed to support, and notice I used the word CLAIMED, Georgetown basketball. Because if you did, you wouldn't be making asinine posts like the two you did in this thread.
I haven't knocked him one bit. Some have. But only a blind man can't see that we have one of the very best coaches in the country.
And I, for one, wouldn't trade him for anybody
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 25, 2008 22:43:46 GMT -5
I've obviously touched a raw nerve here. There have been an abundance of knocks against this coach here and for good reason. Now there's angst? In the aftermath of one of the most embarrassing losses this program has ever had, I believe that frustration has made a few of you into a need to be Thompson Kool-Aid drinkers. JT3 is getting no help from his buddies on the sidelines. They're more suited to be ballboys at Yates. What we really needed Sunday was Spencer Gloger. Ask the esteemed coach who he is. Maybe he has some eligibility left. What is the basis for your knowledge here? Do you know his "buddies" on the sidelines? Do you hear what they say during timeouts? It seems like each timeout, Thompson has a little powwow with his "buddies" farther away from the bench before talking to the players. Do you think they're swapping recipes? Who are you?! Again, this must be a joke.
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Post by hoyanick on Mar 25, 2008 22:48:16 GMT -5
Spencer Gloger went to my high school. He was a tallish guard who was a great shooter, and a standout in high school, but not much else. He enrolled at Princeton, then transferred to UCLA because he was ruled to be academically ineligible at Princeton, and then transferred BACK to Princeton. Pretty sure he never really made an impact there.
So whats your point?
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Post by hoyahebrew on Mar 25, 2008 22:52:44 GMT -5
Insipid excuses like refs, homecourt, crowd noise are all nonsense. The great Hoya teams of the past didn't care about such things; they played hard and won. The reality is we lost to a #10 seed being led by our clueless coach. If only a blind man can't see we have one of the best coaches in the country, please post your response to me in braille.
I didn't insult anyone here. You communicate more like Michael Graham taking his GED than Georgetown alumns.
And by the way, for those not aware of the name - Spencer Gloger was to JT3 that Michael Graham was to JT2. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 25, 2008 22:54:47 GMT -5
Lock it up and get this kid out of here. This thread and this poster are both going nowhere.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Mar 25, 2008 22:58:15 GMT -5
yea Dan,
It's obvious this kid's a troll, only coming on here to insight people. You should lock the thread
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 25, 2008 23:02:11 GMT -5
Gotta love the big men who think they're so clever and brave behind a keyboard. Ignore this guy and move on.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 25, 2008 23:07:26 GMT -5
Insipid excuses like refs, homecourt, crowd noise are all nonsense. The great Hoya teams of the past didn't care about such things; they played hard and won. The reality is we lost to a #10 seed being led by our clueless coach. If only a blind man can't see we have one of the best coaches in the country, please post your response to me in braille. I didn't insult anyone here. You communicate more like Michael Graham taking his GED than Georgetown alumns. And by the way, for those not aware of the name - Spencer Gloger was to JT3 that Michael Graham was to JT2. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Spencer Gloger made the Princeton Alumni Weekly's All-Awful Team: "The P-Nut’s All-Awful Team: Spencer Gloger ’04, men’s basketball: I knew about Spencer Gloger well before I decided to attend Princeton. Sitting in the den of my igloo, thawing out some beaver soup, I read about Gloger in SLAM, the basketball magazine. He was the great hope for Princeton basketball. But he went to U.C.L.A. for his sophomore year after having an awesome freshman campaign at Princeton. It was fine because he came back after sitting out for a year there. Then he had to sit out a year here too, since the N.C.A.A. doesn’t allow Red Rover-style transfers. This season, though, this was it. Gloger was going to play. Princeton basketball, baby. Get fired up. Pump ‘Eye of the Tiger’ on your stereo. It was 2002-03, and Gloger was going to fertilize the Ivy League. It didn’t work out that way. Gloger crapped out, but he didn’t fertilize anything. On February 20 the Tigers announced that Gloger, who at that point was living up to the hype, leading the team in both scoring and rebounding, had been ruled academically ineligible, and was not currently enrolled at Princeton University. Swish! “Spencer has been declared academically ineligible,” said coach John Thompson in a statement. "I'm extremely disappointed for Spencer, but we will move on.” Coach, I’m disappointed, too. Gloger can return in 2004, but that is no excuse. Playing a sport at Princeton means being both an athlete and a student. Spencer Gloger has taken his time becoming one, and apparently can’t cut it as the other." www.princeton.edu/~paw/columns/p-nut_gallery/pnut070203.html
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Post by GUHoya07 on Mar 25, 2008 23:39:51 GMT -5
I agree, this thread should be locked immediately. This idiot is calling our coach clueless after he just completely revitalized our program, brought us to the Final Four and gave us back to back Big East Regular Season Championships and a Tournament title. If that is clueless then please give me some more of it. This guy must be trying to incite us because no one in their right mind could say the things he is saying about our amazing coach.
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Post by royski on Mar 26, 2008 0:47:57 GMT -5
JTIII, clueless... I was mildly interested in the question of whether or not our departed assistants may have had an impact on our strategy on the court, but this guy's just a total fool.
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Post by SaxaCD on Mar 26, 2008 6:01:48 GMT -5
No need to get into our coach's shortcomings; they've been well documented here. They have? I've seen a lot of strange harping which is understandable due to irrationality caused by a hurtful loss, but I haven't read very much valid criticism of his actual coaching. I, for one, believe he's one of the very best coaches in the country, and while he still has some things to learn, as almost everyone in every profession does, especially those driven to be the best, he is right now a better coach than the vast majority out there. Then again, probably just a troll post. This coach took UNDERMANNED Princeton teams to league titles, and the one time he did have a good one-on-one player, he had nobody around the guy who could shoot the ball, and AGAIN made the tourney (and had the team play well, to boot). Gloger? That's a clue that this post is just bait. I'm sure we could have used some Dartmouth transferrees, too...
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 26, 2008 6:16:12 GMT -5
The guy has like four posts total to his history. Obviously he joined up to be a troll.
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 26, 2008 6:47:56 GMT -5
gimme a break great coach and even better person gimme a break our luckiest day when he signed end of story nuf said go hoyas is it november yet coach aint graduating nope go hoyas
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Post by guru on Mar 26, 2008 8:25:30 GMT -5
This is truly one of the most unintentionally hilarious threads ever to appear on this board.
Hoyahebrew, you are a comic genius.
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