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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 11:33:07 GMT -5
How do you think he was able to bust that prostitution ring while he was the Attorney General? By sitting in his office all day shuffling through papers? No way. It was only accomplished through meticulous infiltration and a full and thorough understanding of the breadth and depth of ALL aspects of the business. That's how. I applaud the man on a job well done.
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 11, 2008 11:48:41 GMT -5
I'll never criticize a prosecutor ("rogue" or otherwise) b/c I want to be one, and I think that criminals should be dealt with. It doesn't matter what it takes, as long as Spitzer followed the law as a prosecutor, I support every bust he made. Now, I just hope someone else does the same to him. I think power-mad prosecuters, like Mike Nifong, are a massively under-reported threat to personal liberty in this country. We could use more checks on prosecuters frankly. Mike Nifong was disbarred. It seems like the check worked.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Mar 11, 2008 11:50:58 GMT -5
I think power-mad prosecuters, like Mike Nifong, are a massively under-reported threat to personal liberty in this country. We could use more checks on prosecuters frankly. Mike Nifong was disbarred. It seems like the check worked. I think the check worked in that case because of how frenzied the media coverage was due to the racial/spoiled rich kids/Duke/athletes aspects of the case. Not so sure if that's the case in a lot of other instances.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Mar 11, 2008 12:22:12 GMT -5
I'll never criticize a prosecutor ("rogue" or otherwise) b/c I want to be one, and I think that criminals should be dealt with. It doesn't matter what it takes, as long as Spitzer followed the law as a prosecutor, I support every bust he made. Now, I just hope someone else does the same to him. Strummer, if that's your attitude I would encourage you to work for a criminal defense attorney at some point during law school, or participate in your school's criminal defense clinic if there is one. Not only would you gain valuable experience that would help you reach your goal, you would also gain some important perspective. It's the prosecutors with the "it doesn't matter what it takes," "criminals should be dealt with," us vs. them mentality that end up being the Chuck Rosenthals of the world. www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2008_4514915As for Spitzer, I am currently refreshing Drudge and have not seen a resignation announcement, only a threat of impeachment from the NY GOP. This whole episode (which probably should end with Spitzer's resignation) is crushing not only for Spitzer but for the State of New York. A governor's forced resignation is never good for a state government. What an idiot.
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Post by FewFAC on Mar 11, 2008 12:31:29 GMT -5
B***h set me up.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 11, 2008 12:39:40 GMT -5
I'll never criticize a prosecutor ("rogue" or otherwise) b/c I want to be one, and I think that criminals should be dealt with. It doesn't matter what it takes, as long as Spitzer followed the law as a prosecutor, I support every bust he made. Now, I just hope someone else does the same to him. Strummer, if that's your attitude I would encourage you to work for a criminal defense attorney at some point during law school, or participate in your school's criminal defense clinic if there is one. Not only would you gain valuable experience that would help you reach your goal, you would also gain some important perspective. It's the prosecutors with the "it doesn't matter what it takes," "criminals should be dealt with," us vs. them mentality that end up being the Chuck Rosenthals of the world. www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2008_4514915As for Spitzer, I am currently refreshing Drudge and have not seen a resignation announcement, only a threat of impeachment from the NY GOP. This whole episode (which probably should end with Spitzer's resignation) is crushing not only for Spitzer but for the State of New York. A governor's forced resignation is never good for a state government. What an idiot. I agree. I believe the phrase "prosecutorial discretion" is one of the most important in our system of law, and one of the most forgotten by too many prosecutors (in my experience).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 12:57:45 GMT -5
Notice how few times the fact he's a Democrat gets mentioned? Now, were he a Republican, that's another story. The largest headline on CNN.com right now reads "Sex Scandal Democrat Urged to Quit"
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Post by Bando on Mar 11, 2008 13:12:05 GMT -5
Notice how few times the fact he's a Democrat gets mentioned? Now, were he a Republican, that's another story. The largest headline on CNN.com right now reads "Sex Scandal Democrat Urged to Quit" Never let the facts get in the way of an entrenched victim complex, you liberal media communazi.
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Post by thebin on Mar 11, 2008 13:42:47 GMT -5
I think power-mad prosecuters, like Mike Nifong, are a massively under-reported threat to personal liberty in this country. We could use more checks on prosecuters frankly. Mike Nifong was disbarred. It seems like the check worked. It just so happens that the Duke Three 1. could afford good lawyers AND 2. the national media rushed into help hang them- so once the threads started unravelling, they HAD to report on what actually happened. Had not both of those extraordinary things happened, Mike Nifong would never have been popped. The check isn't strong enough.
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Post by thebin on Mar 11, 2008 13:46:13 GMT -5
WSJ editorial....
One might call it Shakespearian if there were a shred of nobleness in the story of Eliot Spitzer's fall. There is none. Governor Spitzer, who made his career by specializing in not just the prosecution, but the ruin, of other men, is himself almost certainly ruined. The stupendously deluded belief that the sitting Governor of New York could purchase the services of prostitutes was merely the last act of a man unable to admit either the existence of, or need for, limits.
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Post by vcjack on Mar 11, 2008 21:16:19 GMT -5
But Fredo owned the joint and Tom said that everything would be taken care of!
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Post by HoyaFM on Mar 12, 2008 1:08:32 GMT -5
Spitzer spoke at my (New York) high school my senior year for some reason and his speech was a long diatribe against "moral relativism," as he put it. Then some smart-aleck sophomore asked him how he could preach against the sins of moral relativism to us and then go make some plea bargains later in the afternoon at his office. Spitzer's response was to snarl back and say that's the way the world works and we shouldn't be so naive to think otherwise. He always seemed a little too slick but this situation couldn't get too much more bizarre.
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Post by thebin on Mar 12, 2008 7:53:57 GMT -5
But Fredo owned the joint and Tom said that everything would be taken care of! Yep cvjack...that's about the size of it. With Dick Grasso playing the part of Michael Corleone. Hysterical.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2008 10:36:34 GMT -5
Notice how few times the fact he's a Democrat gets mentioned? Now, were he a Republican, that's another story. The largest headline on CNN.com right now reads "Sex Scandal Democrat Urged to Quit" Correction: It now reads "Source: Sex Scandal Democrat to Resign". thebin and easyed should both be pleased.
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Post by The Stig on Mar 13, 2008 16:54:57 GMT -5
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 13, 2008 23:59:28 GMT -5
I'll never criticize a prosecutor ("rogue" or otherwise) b/c I want to be one, and I think that criminals should be dealt with. It doesn't matter what it takes, as long as Spitzer followed the law as a prosecutor, I support every bust he made. Now, I just hope someone else does the same to him. Strummer, if that's your attitude I would encourage you to work for a criminal defense attorney at some point during law school, or participate in your school's criminal defense clinic if there is one. Not only would you gain valuable experience that would help you reach your goal, you would also gain some important perspective. It's the prosecutors with the "it doesn't matter what it takes," "criminals should be dealt with," us vs. them mentality that end up being the Chuck Rosenthals of the world. www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2008_4514915As for Spitzer, I am currently refreshing Drudge and have not seen a resignation announcement, only a threat of impeachment from the NY GOP. This whole episode (which probably should end with Spitzer's resignation) is crushing not only for Spitzer but for the State of New York. A governor's forced resignation is never good for a state government. What an idiot. Yeah at some point, I definitely do want to see the other side. And I'm sure that there are plenty of instances where prosecutors do run amok. With Spitzer, I don't know enough details to say that he was right, but also don't like jumping to conclusions that a successful prosecutor is on who just likes ruining lives. Especially during his epically botched election, Giuliani got a lot of talk as a "rogue" prosecutor, but at the end of the day, he got results in an area that others had failed to for years, and almost got whacked for it. Spitzer himself seems like slime. And like I said, I don't know much about him, but if his "Holier than thou" attitude was as apparent as the reports make it sound, he's quite the hypocrite. "Kristen" was also far, far too good looking for him.
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Post by Boz on Mar 14, 2008 9:03:06 GMT -5
I know we all want to be careful in a situation like this, and never assume too much or go too far in making conclusions.
However, at this point, I think it would probably be safe to remove the question mark from the title of this thread.
I'm just sayin' is all.
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 14, 2008 13:45:38 GMT -5
"For the third evening in a row Wednesday, the 'NBC Nightly News' refused to identify Eliot Spitzer as a Democrat," the Media Research Center's Brent Baker writes at www.mrc.org. However, ABC's "World News" finally got around to mentioning Mr. Spitzer's party affiliation, after failing to do so Monday and Tuesday night, when Elizabeth Vargas anchored." Said Mr. Baker: "In contrast, fill-in 'NBC Nightly News' anchor Ann Curry on Wednesday teased news about 'New York's crusading governor' and then led her broadcast sans any party identification" and correspondent Mike Taibbi, just as he did Monday and Tuesday, did not name parties in his piece." "CBS was the only broadcast network evening newscast to have [named his party] on Monday, the day news of his dalliance with a prostitute broke." Quotes from "Inside Politics", Greg Pierce.
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Post by lightbulbbandit on Mar 14, 2008 14:22:51 GMT -5
I agree ed, then again, they could have tried to convince everyone he was a republican...
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Mar 17, 2008 0:06:12 GMT -5
Caught with his pants down (sorry couldn't resist). I'm sure all of the friends he made on Wall Street will miss him.
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