TigerHoya
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Post by TigerHoya on Jan 23, 2008 7:08:59 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 23, 2008 14:51:25 GMT -5
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Post by CWS on Jan 23, 2008 16:13:12 GMT -5
The first site is a bit irresponsible; it looks like the pope made the claim about Jesuits and the sexual abuse scandal, whereas it was really part of an article. The claim is also wrong. Jesuits have had their share of the scandal, but nothing like what has rocked some of the dioceses and a couple of religious communities.
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Post by hilltopper2000 on Jan 23, 2008 16:36:00 GMT -5
And the second article is just funny. According to the St. Louis Archbishop, Rick Majerus's comments on abortion could "lead Catholics astray." Let's just hope he doesn't hear Rick's comments on Ashley Judd!!!!
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Post by TigerHoya on Jan 24, 2008 9:17:57 GMT -5
The Archbishop who made the Majerus comments is the same one who publicly said he would deny communion to John Kerry.
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Post by Filo on Jan 24, 2008 9:39:42 GMT -5
Re: Majerus leading Catholics astray--
Any Catholic looking to Rick Majerus, or any basketball coach, for moral guidance should be given last rites, since they are surely brain dead.
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 24, 2008 9:53:07 GMT -5
The Archbishop who made the Majerus comments is the same one who publicly said he would deny communion to John Kerry. Bravo to the Archbishop. |
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Post by bmghoya on Jan 24, 2008 22:23:51 GMT -5
I am a bit rusty on my theology to comment that intelligently on either issue (I wonder if basketball coaches fall under Ex Corde Ecclesia), but Father Burke is a known blowhard who will grab headlines whenever possible. My bias may be fairly obvious, but I think both sides acknowledge that the Archbishop enjoys attention. I read an article a few years ago (again, from Harper's, who are obviously also in my camp) about several Archbishops with suspect academic credentials / pastoral ability who were nominated because they passed the JPII litmus test. Father Burke was their primary example.
To use a stretched comparison, I accord as much respect to Father Burke as serious college basketball fans have for Dick Vitale. That fact does not necessarily mean his point about Majerus was wrong.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 24, 2008 23:16:13 GMT -5
The Archbishop who made the Majerus comments is the same one who publicly said he would deny communion to John Kerry. Bravo to the Archbishop. Perhaps this is my faith speaking and a belief in tolerance, but I found this particular act by the Archbishop to be crude and uncivilized. It rang a little hollow at the time and still does for the simple reason that it seemed political more than an effort to reinforce beliefs. Where was the Archbishop when Kerry was a junior Senator? Calling this press conference or that press conference to comment on the issues of the day as he has done in Missouri likewise seems to undermine the Archbishop's standing. Likewise, I find the act of a leader of a faithful community going outside its doors to actively create divisions, even if we're talking about a small group of high-profile individuals, to be counterproductive and probably raised more than a few eyebrows within the Catholic community in the United States. |
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 25, 2008 9:46:51 GMT -5
Perhaps this is my faith speaking and a belief in tolerance, but I found this particular act by the Archbishop to be crude and uncivilized. It rang a little hollow at the time and still does for the simple reason that it seemed political more than an effort to reinforce beliefs. Where was the Archbishop when Kerry was a junior Senator? Calling this press conference or that press conference to comment on the issues of the day as he has done in Missouri likewise seems to undermine the Archbishop's standing. Likewise, I find the act of a leader of a faithful community going outside its doors to actively create divisions, even if we're talking about a small group of high-profile individuals, to be counterproductive and probably raised more than a few eyebrows within the Catholic community in the United States. What I see is an Archbishop actively supporting the teachings of the Catholic Church and, for that, I commend him. In doing so, he is standing on his principles even at the expense of drawing fire from those who seem to believe that issues such as abortion are not black and white but somehow subject to individual interpretation. In other words, it's okay to favor or not to favor the killing of an innocent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2008 11:09:07 GMT -5
What I see is an Archbishop actively supporting the teachings of the Catholic Church and, for that, I commend him. In doing so, he is standing on his principles even at the expense of drawing fire from those who seem to believe that issues such as abortion are not black and white but somehow subject to individual interpretation. In other words, it's okay to favor or not to favor the killing of an innocent. What I see is a man who doesn't bother actually sticking to his convictions: www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/j001htBurke_Frank.htmWhatever happened to the separation of church and state, anyway? |
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Post by theexorcist on Jan 25, 2008 11:13:30 GMT -5
The thing that hurts Majerus in this is that he's Catholic. Having him as a representative of the university doesn't hurt as much as someone who was Jewish or Baptist - but as a Catholic, he sort of represents the university.
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