Do we have Women Pole Vaulters . . .

[doublehoya]

. . . on our track and field team?

If not, we should:

www.thesabre.com/message_board/general/2007/May/4/520289.php

[Nevada Hoya]

Not this year! And no PV'ers in the current recruit list.

[hifigator]

Oh wait a minute, I mis-read the title. deleted

[Nevada Hoya]

Her name is Allison Stokke. Here is her signing picture with Berkeley: www.dyestat.com/3us/college/choices07/photos.htm

[StPetersburgHoya (Inactive)]

Cal or USC?

[Elvado]

Or in the case of hifi, he thought you said deleted

go back to work hifi, someone needs a a Big Mac...

[Deleted]

More - demonstrating the power of the internet:

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/28/AR2007052801370.html?hpid=topnews

[DanMcQ]

All the more reason to consider the effect of what one posts on boards like this on those one is posting about: actual real-life students with thoughts, feelings, and rights.

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danmcq said:

All the more reason to consider the effect of what one posts on boards like this on those one is posting about: actual real-life students with thoughts, feelings, and rights.

I'll echo that sentiment, Dan. Well put.

[hoyaboy1]

Interesting to note - her father, who is feverishly scouring the internet for stalkers, served as defense attorney for a teacher that had sex with a 12 and 14 year old boy.

[GIGAFAN99]

danmcq said:

All the more reason to consider the effect of what one posts on boards like this on those one is posting about: actual real-life students with thoughts, feelings, and rights.

Meh, this falls under "not very nice." No offense but teenagers all across the country suffer much greater indignities. I'm sorry I can't feel too bad for the girl whose newspaper photo of her warming up is being circulated because she's so beautiful when much weaker kids in much worse postions are having profoundly damaging and illegal things published about them every day.

Edit: Before the obligatory "Oh so you're saying she deserves it" post comes out, let me just respond with "No, I'm not." I'm just saying it doesn't warrant a Post article or all that much outrage.

[EasyEd]

If the Post were worried about all the publicity she has received, why did they show this publicity?

[theexorcist]

It doesn't warrant the Post article for her, but it does warrant the article for what it means.

Let's back up. There are lots of people who post stupid things on MySpace or other fora. They don't get jobs or their women's lacrosse team gets shut down because somebody sees this stuff. But they made a decision to post on a public forum that can be seen in almost every country in the world.

The second group is those who do something wrong and get zapped - hard - for it. On a national/international level, this is George Allen or Mel Gibson. On a local level, it's Ms. Cooper. People could make mistakes before, but unless they were really bad, people forgot. Now, idiocy get transferred almost immediately and people can see the evidence on YouTube or the actual article in print. And get information on the person.

Let's take an example. Some bozo in Fairfax forced their team to forfeit the playoffs in a pee-wee league. That's all I remember. I Googled "Fairfax county", playoffs, and football, and the first result was a Washington Post article on the event. I found the name of the team. Before the story broke, I could have found the web site of the football league and maybe the coach. I could have deluged them with emails. Or I could have posted to a well-read blog and invited people to do the same. Or the next time the guy applies for a job, a Google search leads to an article on this. You still want to hire him?

There's the question of mob justice here, especially if people get the facts wrong (cough, Duke case, cough). But usually people get zapped because they did something wrong.

But then there's this case. She didn't do or say anything wrong or hateful. She didn't post the pictures on her MySpace page. She didn't send out a few pictures to see if she could get a modeling gig. Someone just captured her on camera and a popular blog got a hold of it. Her privacy disappeared and her "fame" was pretty miserable (see above post where someone found out one of the cases her dad took).

The same can happen to you. That's the message of the article. It may be for a different reason, but if you get sucked up in the news media, you stay there until people get tired of you.

[DanMcQ]

gigafan99 said:

danmcq said:

All the more reason to consider the effect of what one posts on boards like this on those one is posting about: actual real-life students with thoughts, feelings, and rights.

Meh, this falls under "not very nice." No offense but teenagers all across the country suffer much greater indignities. I'm sorry I can't feel too bad for the girl whose newspaper photo of her warming up is being circulated because she's so beautiful when much weaker kids in much worse postions are having profoundly damaging and illegal things published about them every day.

Edit: Before the obligatory "Oh so you're saying she deserves it" post comes out, let me just respond with "No, I'm not." I'm just saying it doesn't warrant a Post article or all that much outrage.

You miss my point. I was referring specifically to the sometimes over the line things that get posted here (and in places like this) that fail to take into account the human being(s) that is(are) being made fun of, misogynized (who knows if that is even a word), or otherwise slammed when all they otherwise are doing is trying their best as student athletes. Look through the pages here and you'll find countless examples. The lone male Hoya cheerleader is an example - at least he had the courage to come here and post his opinion when he was unfairly made fun of. I was not giving any opinion about the Washington Post or trying to stir 'outrage', simply noting it makes sense to stop and consider the human subject before we post.