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Post by showcase on Jun 29, 2005 13:57:05 GMT -5
It's still unconfirmed, although the AP has one of those squirrely anonymous sources from inside the Kremlin.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Jun 29, 2005 14:26:50 GMT -5
Yes he did, you can't trust those Russians.
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Post by TBird41 on Jun 29, 2005 15:39:33 GMT -5
Yes he did, you can't trust those Russians. Spoken like a true Pole.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jun 29, 2005 16:15:52 GMT -5
All Polish prejudice aside, Eko Moskvi (the closest thing to the Russian BBC) has picked up the story and says it has confirmation that Putin thought the ring was a gift from Kraft when he put it on a table in Putin's Kremlin office during a formal meeting between the two me. Putin, who has never seen American Football - much less know what the significance of a Super Bowl ring is, took it to be a diplomatic gift - which is a common practice and took it. Sounds like a cultural misunderstanding to me.
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Post by Cambridge on Jun 30, 2005 11:30:21 GMT -5
This only confirms one of my suspicions. As I have posted in the past on numerous occasions I am convinced that good ol' Bill Belllichick is merely a cyborg sent back from the future to assassinate the future leader of the human resistance. As he waits for the birth of our leader, he is biding his time by dominating the National Football League. He feels no pain. He will take no prisoners.
Anyways, this incident was merely Robert Kraft making a payment dump to the former KGB head -- Putin -- to ensure that he keeps his mouth shut. I mean, it would severely hinder the Bill Bellichick deification in New England if it were to come out publically that he was an unfeeling cyborg bent on the destruction of the human race...well, actually it probably wouldn't.
Anyways, point being Putin is crafty, but not nearly as Bobby Kraft. I assume the ring is merely a tracking device that will allow Bill Bellichick to track down and crush Putin.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jun 30, 2005 14:52:03 GMT -5
I would like to point out that by having a near-homonym of crafty in his name Bobby Kraft is by definition craftier than Vlad Putin (or "Pooty-poot" as the Bush White House calls him ... wow ...).
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Post by GUHoya07 on Jul 1, 2005 13:00:58 GMT -5
Putin is no good
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Post by showcase on Jul 1, 2005 14:00:45 GMT -5
Easy now, 07. Don't forget that Dubya looked into his eyes and saw his soul.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jul 1, 2005 17:56:23 GMT -5
I think it was a misunderstanding, 07, its not like they annexed 6 of their neighbors and rolled tanks through half of Poland - its just a ring and an issue of Putin not understanding that "superbowl" does not refer to the maker of the ring and that letting him put it on does not mean that it was a gift.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Jul 3, 2005 15:30:04 GMT -5
Yeah, I get it, I still don't like Putin though. The guy's very shady and some of his actions don't seem to show that he has any real interest in having a good relationship with Poland, or other neighbors.
Kaliningrad (which is a city in that little separated part of Russia that gives them access to the Baltic) is celebrating its 750 years in existence and while they invited other Presidents they decided not to invite the Presidents of neighboring Poland and Lithuania. Maybe it doesnt mean anything, but it seems pretty strange and its been mentioned in the news a number of times. Just seems like a strange thing to not even offer an invitation to the neighboring countries.
As far as Polands actions, President Kwasniewski was nice enough to attend those celebrations earlier this year in Russia for victory day or whatever even though there was a lot of opposition within Poland to attending it.
I try to keep an open mind and not be angry at Russia forever, and certainly not the Russian people, the government. But Moscow has wanted to have control over Poland and be its superior for a long time, and some things don't change that quickly.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jul 3, 2005 23:40:36 GMT -5
Well if your last two presidents were a mildly-functional alcoholic who used to be on the Politburo before becoming a "democrat" and a former high ranking spy in East Germany then I don't think your country would change very quickly either. Its going to take 20 years for Russia's political leadership to really turn over. And barring another revolution, Putin staying in power, or financial meltdown then things will be ok. The problem with the country is that people in Moscow and Petersburg live as well as the average New Yorker but outside of those two cities the rest of the country is really only beginning to see the benefits of the market economics. Its a shame that a country that was on the same economic, political, and military standing as 1913 Germany was vocieferously destroyed by its leadership in the next 70 years. I believe most Russians when they say that all they want is to be a "normal country" now and that they have to be optimists because only optimists could still be alive in Russia today.
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