James Madison Invitational

[Nevada Hoya]

The Hoyas are supposed to be competing in the James Madision Invitational and the Blue Heaven Meet at Chapel Hill. But it appears that most of the team will be at JMU. I know they will be trying for regional qualifying times and both the 800m and 1500m are stacked with Hoyas. The 1500m heats are as follows:

Event 6 Men 1500 Meter Run
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Saturday 5/8/2004 - 8:55 PM
Waterfall Start
Sections 1-3 on Saturday; Section 4 on Sunday
Name Year School
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Section 1 Timed Finals
1 Webb, Alan Nike
2 Long, Jason Jmu Alumni
3 Milne, Taylor Unattached
4 Lukezic, Chris Georgetown
5 Honerkamp, John Nyac
6 Schneider, Nick Duke
7 Smits, Kyle U-Georgetown
8 Anderson, Scott Universal Sole T
9 Towle, Ted Nyac
10 Manning, Tommy Georgetown
11 Debole, Matt Georgetown
12 Tebbano, Dan Georgetown
Section 2 Timed Finals
1 Sherry, Peter Gotta Run
2 Tatu, Alex Virginia
3 Reardon, Casey Duke
4 Rabe, Dan Liberty U.
5 Cronin, Ian Duke
6 Ndungu, Daniel Vcu
7 Fleming, Eric Pittsburgh
8 Fraser, John James Madison
9 McMillian, John U-James Madison
10 Carr, Allen James Madison
11 Batey, Casey Unattached
12 Kingsbery, Walton Virginia
Section 3 Timed Finals
1 Hendrix-Buxton, Chris U-Mason Elite
2 Bennett, Erik Unattached
3 Clark, Morgan Duke
4 Hower, Fleet Georgetown
5 Brown, Jason Liberty U.
6 Fleg, Mike Maryland
7 Lanz, Conor American
8 DeVault, Tyler Unattached
9 Anastasia-Murphy, Sean U-William and Ma
10 Porter, Michael Maryland
11 Thompson, Rasheed Georgetown
12 Mulcahy, Sean Elizabethtown
13 Erickson, Tim Georgetown
14 Lenaghan, Pat Georgetown
15 Baxter, David James Madison

Two things to be pointed out: in the first heat with Chris Lukezic, Tommy Manning, Matt Debole, and Dan Tebbano, iin addition to grad (?) Kyle Smits, is Alan Webb, so I think this heat has to be fast. I think qualifying for the Regionals is about 3:48. In the 2nd heat, stepping down in distance is Hoya alum Peter Sherry.

[Nevada Hoya]

Big news! Both Jesse O'Connell and Chris Lukezic beat Alan Webb. Actually, Alan ran both the 800 and 1500m races today, so that is quite a feat in itself. But Jesse won the 800m race in 1:47.96. Chris won the 1500m in a fantastic time - equivalent to about a 3:58 mile, pretty neat on almost the 50th anniversary of the first 4 minute mile. His time was 3:41.59 with Webb second in 3:42.21. Tom Parlapiano of Villanova, a runner who beat Chris in the regionals last year, was a distance 3rd in 3:46.59, so this came down to a two man race. I think Chris vaulted himself into the equation for making the Olympic team.

[Nevada Hoya]

Full results of the first day of the James Madison Invite.

Women's 800m (regional qualifying time: 2:10.29)
4. Maura McCusker 2:09.25
8. Nana Hanson-Hall 2:13.35
10. Kelley Otstott 2:13.67
13. Meghan O'Neil 2:15.98
16. Jayne Penn 2:17.83
Also list as unattached but with a Georgetown affiliation was Mary Hale, who finished 3rd in 2:08.46

Women's 1500m (qualifying: 4:29.12)
1. Treniere Clement 4:17.85
2. Colleen Kelly 4:23.75
9. Sabine Knothe 4:38.53
10. Rose Wetzel 4:39.31
15. Kim Malcolm 4:44.96

Men's 800m (qualifying 1:50.62)
1. Jesse O'Connell 1:47.96
3. Ali Nazzar 1:49.74
6. Ezra Richards 1:50.88 (just missed the mark)
10. Nat Glackin 1:51.82

Men's 1500m (qualifying 3:48.21)
1. Chris Lukezic 3:41.59
5. Tommy Manning 3:48.40 (just missed the mark)
7. Matt Debole 3:50.79
8. Dan Tebbano 3:51.3
14. (Hoya alum) Peter Sherry 3:55.88
22. Rasheed Thompson 4:02.18
24. Neil Grosscup 4:02.37
30. Pat Lenaghan 4:09.81
31. Tim Erickson 4:11.88

Men's 5000m
3. Brian Dalpiaz 14:47.9
11. Chris Esselborn 14:59.1
Fleet Hower and Kyle Smits (unattached with GU affiliation) both DNF.

[Nevada Hoya]

Some added info on the James Madison meet. Apparently, it was very windy, so the times are that much more impressive.

From one of the track and field boards:

His (Chris Lukezic) 3:41 is a PR for him, but from what I've seen he is great in rounds-type racing and is VERY underrated as a (Olympic) trials threat....if it becomes a tactical race. I predicted him for top-7 a while back.

[nychoya3]

Does Jesse have a shot at the trials? Could he become an internationally competitive runner?

I'll be pulling for him. Just a great guy who you'd never guess is a world class athlete.

[Nevada Hoya]

I will have to find out the qualifying marks for the trials in the 800m, but I think Jesse will probably be at the trials too.

[Nevada Hoya]

The qualifying times in the 800 for the Olympic trials are 1:46.4 and 1:48.5. The first mark is the A standard, which means that if you make that mark, you go to the trials; the second mark is the provisional. They accomodate up to 30 athletes in the heats, so if there are not 30 people with the A standard, they will start taking runners with the B standard until they have 30. The 1500m marks are 3:39 and 3:43 with the same reasoning behind these marks. The 1500m also takes 30 runners. Besides Jesse and Chris, Treniere Clement is close to the B standard with her 4:17.85 yesterday. For the women the A and B standards in the 1500m are 4:10 and 4:17.5, respectively.

[Nevada Hoya]

The rest of the JMU meet:

100m Women
5. Nichole Torpey 12.35
6. Cinya Burton 12.66

200m
6. Nichole Torpey 25.25

4x100
3. Georgetown 50.84

HJ
6. Lena Jackson

PV
1. Leilani Green 11'9.75"

TJ
4. Ashley Mondie 39'00.5"

100m Men
5. Andrew Nolen 10.78
11. Luke McArdle 11.11
14. Jesse Patterson 11.21 (the Hoyas went 1,2,3 in heat 4)

200
11. Chris Bonner 21.78
12. Andrew Nolen 21.98

400
6. Chris Bonner 47.99
12. Andrew Nolen 49.75

400H
6. James Graham 55.56 (nice to see James back, but obvioulsy not at 100%)

4x100
2. Georgetown 42.66

LJ
5. Jesse Patterson 22'8.5"
8. Teddy Presley 22'1.75"
11. Luke McArdle 21'1.25"

TJ
9. Teddy Presley 45'7.25"

[Hoya]

Nevada said:

The qualifying times in the 800 for the Olympic trials are 1:46.4 and 1:48.5. The first mark is the A standard, which means that if you make that mark, you go to the trials; the second mark is the provisional. They accomodate up to 30 athletes in the heats, so if there are not 30 people with the A standard, they will start taking runners with the B standard until they have 30. The 1500m marks are 3:39 and 3:43 with the same reasoning behind these marks. The 1500m also takes 30 runners. Besides Jesse and Chris, Treniere Clement is close to the B standard with her 4:17.85 yesterday. For the women the A and B standards in the 1500m are 4:10 and 4:17.5, respectively.

Where did you find this info? All I saw was: www.usatf.org/events/2004/OlympicGames/entry/qualifyingStandards.asp
and those times look kind of steep. 1:48.5 doesn't sound incredibly fast, though, either.

[reformation]

Couple of thoughts re: Jesse O'Connell at the trials:
1)He seems like a great competitor , so it would seem like he'd have a shot if he makes the finals and it is a tactical race
2)His PR is at least 1.5-2.5 seconds off world class std, also the favorites at the trials would have certainly gone @1.46 or below--I have no idea what his potential is
3)Does anyone remember what R.Kenah or S. Holman ran the 800m at while at GU--might provide some bechmark for where Jesse is relative to guys who achieved world class status

[Nevada Hoya]

Hoya, those standards are for the Olympic team. I gave the qualifying standards for the US Olympic trials (http://www.usatf.org/events/2004/OlympicTrials-TF/entry/qualifyingStandards.asp). The reasoning behind the Olympic standards is different. Once the Olympic trial races are run, the top three in each event are selected for the Olympic team, IF each of those persons makes the A standards (e.g., the Olympic qualifying time for the 1500m is 3:36.00). However, the problems arise in the case that three runners or athletes do not make the mark. In the 100m dash this is never the case, as the US is filled with people who can make the A mark. But in other events, like the 1500m, this is sometimes a problem. There is a certain time window to make these marks, so if one of the top three finishers at the OT does not have the A mark, then that person goes to Europe in chase of the qualifying time. If that person does not make it, then his spot goes to the next finisher, who does have the A mark. However, if only one person in an event has the A mark and if the winner of the trials has a B mark, that person with the B mark goes, and the person with the A mark stays at home. So the person with the A mark is rooting for somebody else to make the A mark. If two people make the A mark, they go, even if they do not finish 1,2. As long as they are the only ones with the A mark and they have completed the trials race, they go. So, it is a complicated and confusing system. I think Steve Holman got aced out a couple of years ago, because he was one of the few people going into the trials who had an A mark in the 1500m, but after several races in Europe, one or two people ahead of him at the trials got the A standard. Also, if three have the A standard, they go, if they are the only people with that mark. If more than three, it is decided by OT order. Clear as mud! ;D

[Nevada Hoya]

Reformation, I will have to research Rich's and Steve's 800m times at GU. I doubt that they went faster than 1:46 at GU, at least in collegiate races. If they went to Europe and got in some of those races with rabbits, maybe a 1:45. I think DeRienzo ran a 1:46 at GU. Actually, Jesse's time over the weekend could have been down in the 1:46 range, if the weather was still. I hear it was very windy. The race went out very fast - 51 seconds for the first 400. But in the wind you can tie up pretty fast in those conditions. Yet, Jesse ran away with the race. I think the GU guys are trained to do well in multiple heat situations. Rich was great at that. As the heats went on, he would get stronger. Some of these OT races have three or four races - one or two heats, semifinals, finals. I think Jesse is pretty strong. I can see Jesse getting down to at least 1:45, if he keeps running.