hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Jun 11, 2007 9:53:57 GMT -5
What did y'all think?
I thought it was just brilliant. My heart was pounding at the end, and while I was completed dumbfounded at first, once I thought about it, I smiled and loved it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2007 9:56:57 GMT -5
I've thought a lot about it, and unfortunately all I have to say for it is:
decent.
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Jun 11, 2007 10:04:53 GMT -5
A bit of a letdown, but really, I don't think any ending would have been satisfying.
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Post by Bando on Jun 11, 2007 10:31:16 GMT -5
At least Phil got whacked. I loved the kid puking after his head got crushed.
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Post by strummer8526 on Jun 11, 2007 11:04:18 GMT -5
I was pretty frustrated. Honestly, I thought that they were going to spend more time in the safe house--maybe some kind of raid that killed Paulie or something.
I thought the last scene was building to something intense, and I was getting really excited. Then it just...stopped. If the screen had gone black and you just heard a gunshot, I would have been happy with that because once Tony's gone, nothing else really matters.
I think they purposely left us hanging for the movie that may be coming.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 11, 2007 11:04:24 GMT -5
I thought the last episode was very disappointing. This season has been really strong, but the series ended with a dull thud... and a cop out at the end.
Phil has no bodyguards even though a major mob battle has been underway? (Not that I didn't enjoy seeing him taken out.)
IMHO, Chase left it hanging like that so he can come back and make a gillion more bucks with the movie(s) that are sure to follow.
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Post by Boz on Jun 11, 2007 11:25:30 GMT -5
My dream Sopranos ending:
Tony goes back home thinking all is well. Unbeknownst to him, Edited, Ralphie & Christopher all have come back as zombies and are waiting for him.
Christopher: "You killed us! You said you weren't going to do it, but you did it!" Tony: "No, I didn't!" Edited: "Yes, you did!" Tony: "No, I didn't!" Ralphie: "Yes, you did!" Tony: "No, I didn't!" Christopher: "Uhhh, yeah, you did!" Tony: "Uhhh, No! I did not!" Edited: "But you did." Tony: "Didn't!" Ralphie: "You SO freakin' did!" Tony: "No, I didn't!" Edited: "Wait, did you say you did?" Tony: "No." Edited: "Because you did!" Tony: "NO I DIDN'T!" Christopher: "You really, really did!" Tony: "No, I really didn't!" Ralphie: "Gimme' a break! You did!" Tony: "No, I didn't!" Edited: "But you did!" Tony: "Didn't!" Christopher: "Did!" Tony: "No, I didn't!"
Fade to black as the house catches fire and everyone burns. Fade back in as AJ takes off his virtual reality goggles, with Tony standing beside him and we realize the whole series was just a video game to teach AJ a lesson.
-[sigh]- I watch too many cartoons.
(But next Sunday? Robot Chicken Star Wars? No way I'm missing that.)
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Post by kchoya on Jun 11, 2007 11:40:26 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more I like it. C'mon, has there ever been a more riveting scene involving parallel parking? I was on the edge of my seat the last five minutes. And then I'm hitting all the buttons on the TiVo to figure out if my signal went out or what.
Plus there's a lot of info floating around the net about the identities of all the people in the diner. Interesting stuff.
I'd give it about 8 out of 10.
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Post by hoyatables on Jun 11, 2007 12:14:10 GMT -5
Plus there's a lot of info floating around the net about the identities of all the people in the diner. Interesting stuff. Yep: 1) The guy who goes into the bathroom (how brilliant was THAT!) is credited as "Nikki Leotardo" and we supposedly saw him earlier this season. He's a relative of Phil. 2) The trucker is supposedly the guy we saw way back in season 2 that was the brother of a trucker that Chris whacked. 3) The African-American guys are supposedly the same pair that shot Tony in the ear. Frankly, I don't think that you needed to know all that to appreciate and enjoy the final scene. It does add a layer of depth.
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Post by RDF on Jun 11, 2007 12:54:20 GMT -5
Plus there's a lot of info floating around the net about the identities of all the people in the diner. Interesting stuff. Yep: 1) The guy who goes into the bathroom (how brilliant was THAT!) is credited as "Nikki Leotardo" and we supposedly saw him earlier this season. He's a relative of Phil. 2) The trucker is supposedly the guy we saw way back in season 2 that was the brother of a trucker that Chris whacked. 3) The African-American guys are supposedly the same pair that shot Tony in the ear. Frankly, I don't think that you needed to know all that to appreciate and enjoy the final scene. It does add a layer of depth. All of this was proven to be false information. The guy who wore the Members Only jacket--he was a man who worked at the Ice Cream Parlor they finished the show at--he had never acted before in his life--and was just picked out after a casting call. There was no tie to him being realted to Phil. My view of the show--mob life doesn't end well--you either end up locked up or you die. There is no "happy family ending" and way too much focus on that doofus AJ--I wish he'd have bit it in backyard the way Chase chose to focus on this character--he was boring, a mindless nitwit, and the last episode contained far too much focus on him--who cares? I'd have preferred that Tony lost his family entirely--by abandonment/death, etc....as to show you choose your life and risk losing what is most important in doing so. Outside of AJ being the focus--I despised the character change in Butch---Phil's righthand man. This is a man who loves to go to "War" and all of the sudden--he sees resolution as the only answer with Jersey--when New York has far more muscle and was taking soliders and money from Jersey? I call BS on that "Change"--Butch was ruthless and loyal and all of the sudden he just bails on Phil--no bleepin' way. This was a fantastic show for years--and this past season was just chaos and extended with no meaning whatsoever. Talking about terrorism, Kevin Finnerty, etc....reality isn't about these people focusing on world events and having concern--it's about self indulgent, psychotic, evil intentions who are only concerned about themselves--AJ sucked--and focus shifting towards him made Season 6 the least enjoyable for me as a viewer. I loved the Blue Comet--and was disappointed with Made In America--as these things have endings--just realistic ones--and not Mobsters in Ice Cream Parlors with their immediate family being "happy".
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Post by Filo on Jun 11, 2007 13:59:13 GMT -5
I don't think it was a happy ending. It was just just cut off at a point in time. It suggested. to me, that there would have been more of the same, had the show continued on. I mean, Tony was probably going to be indicted, and all of his cronies but Paulie were gone.
I was not a big fan of AJ's character either. But you gotta admit, he was the epitome of self-absorbed (loved how he was driving around in an M3 after all that idealistic talk).
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Post by hoya01 on Jun 11, 2007 16:06:03 GMT -5
The ending was brilliant. There was so much tension in that last scene, with Journey blaring on the juke box. Every time someone entered the diner, Tony eyed them suspiciously. I thought each one was going to kill him. There are many ways to interpret the ending.
I also heard on the radio this morning that Chase has said if he ever does a movie, it would be a prequel.
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Post by thebin on Jun 11, 2007 16:41:12 GMT -5
It amazes me how much traction this "Nikki Leotardo" rumor got- that character was clearly listed as "Guy in the Members Only Jacket" so at some point someone just totally made this Nikki credit up and people all over the country have been buying it.
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Post by thebin on Jun 11, 2007 18:14:35 GMT -5
I didn't love or particularly like the last scene last night upon first viewing. How could we really enjoy the last scene with that much riding on it?
I can't recommend this enough. Go watch the last scene a second and third and fourth time. Its the most powerful scene I have ever seen on television and gets across its point (this is Tony's life) more than any number of whackings or arrests could ever do. Its hard to explain how different a viewing of the same sequence changes when the distraction of the weight of un-meetable expectations is lifted.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jun 11, 2007 18:23:58 GMT -5
I didn't like the ending. It made me think there was something wrong with the DVR.
My dream ending would have been as follows:
Tony goes to see Junior. Tells him who he is. Forgives him. Tells him he has to go.
Cut to Tony walking out of his house in his bath robe - he gets the paper and its the LA Times. He nods over at the two Feds in a van watching his house in LA that happens to look a lot like his old one.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 11, 2007 20:31:26 GMT -5
Contrary to the media buzz on the coasts, not everyone gets HBO and most Americans didn't watch the show.
Far from it--HBO accounts for subscriptions just one in four cable homes, with cable representing just over 60% of all households in the US and less than one in five households altogether.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Jun 11, 2007 20:34:07 GMT -5
I didn't like the ending. It made me think there was something wrong with the DVR. My dream ending would have been as follows: Tony goes to see Junior. Tells him who he is. Forgives him. Tells him he has to go. Cut to Tony walking out of his house in his bath robe - he gets the paper and its the LA Times. He nods over at the two Feds in a van watching his house in LA that happens to look a lot like his old one. A lot of people were expecting an ending like that. I was happy with the idea of an ending that wasn't really an ending, because I didn't really expect Chase to end with closure and resolution. I didn't really like the sudden cut-to-black though, but I've only watched it once so far. I'm glad that they didn't make him an FBI witness, because that would have been unbelievable to me. The Feds get guys to flip to testify against guys like Tony. Sure, he could have provided some testimony against the New York families, but he's a boss, he's the guy the Feds want to nail.
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Post by thebin on Jun 11, 2007 20:59:58 GMT -5
I feel safe saying that 98% of the people I know well have cable. I can't get on board with your anti-coastal bias here DFW....so much of the media lives on the coasts- where EVERYONE has cable and just about everyone has HBO.....so what? Is this an elitist conspiracy? OK, so there are tens of millions of people who don't have HBO and therefore have not seen any of the best 3 or 4 television shows made on any channel in the last 10 years....I guess they are either not watching tv at all (not likely) or they are just watching very bad tv. At any rate, what's the point? That the coastal entertainment media should stop talking about the Sopranos because lots of people don't watch it?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 11, 2007 21:21:37 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jun 12, 2007 6:01:54 GMT -5
tony is reaching with his left hand when the bell rings and the screen goes black. for what and why? who knows. i loved the show. chase was never going to give an absolute ending, instead letting the viewers decide tony's fate for him.
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