kchoya
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Post by kchoya on Mar 8, 2004 15:30:55 GMT -5
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Post by showcase on Mar 8, 2004 18:44:08 GMT -5
It's disappointing that so sharp a jurist is letting his ego get in the way. I'm no fan of his reasoning, but there's no doubting he's pretty sharp. That being said, you got to wonder if in another ten years, Justice Scalia won't do something truly stupid that nets him an impeachment trial.
Nice shot of McDonough, by the way.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 8, 2004 19:19:48 GMT -5
Scalia definitely thinks he is above the standards that apply to other jurists. I'm ashamed to call him a Hoya.
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Post by showcase on Mar 8, 2004 19:39:53 GMT -5
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Z
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Post by Z on Mar 8, 2004 22:10:19 GMT -5
well i rarely miss a chance to take potshots at scalia, but this seems like small potatoes to me (especially in contrast to the cheney controversy). many justices, on all points of the political spectrum, make public speaking appearances that would be "ethical violations" according to the rigid standard that the article advocates. it seems clear that scalia was there to honor the retiring clergyman, not to help finance legal attacks on gay rights.
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Post by showcase on Mar 9, 2004 9:25:18 GMT -5
well i rarely miss a chance to take potshots at scalia, but this seems like small potatoes to me (especially in contrast to the cheney controversy). many justices, on all points of the political spectrum, make public speaking appearances that would be "ethical violations" according to the rigid standard that the article advocates. it seems clear that scalia was there to honor the retiring clergyman, not to help finance legal attacks on gay rights. On the other hand, you don't think that the organization got a nice moral boost by having a sitting Justice at their event? Particularly given that an appeal in which they had a huge stake had yet to be decided? Maybe no substantial funds were generated that night, but I wouldn't be surprised if word of Justice Scalia's presence at the dinner somehow made it out to that organization's faithful, and more money came rolling in as a result. I agree it's fairly trivial in and of itself, but it is another example of the Justice's poor decision making on these issues and adds to the perception that the good Justice believes himself to be above the law in some respects.
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Z
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Post by Z on Mar 9, 2004 10:15:53 GMT -5
my point is that the whole "moral boost" standard would disqualify a wide range of supreme court justices from speaking in front of a wide range of organizations, which i think would be a shame. my opportunities to hear ginsburg, kennedy, and breyer in person were really delightful--and two of them wouldnt have happened under the exacting ethical threshold you are pushing. but overall, i see your point, and it's at least equally as valid as mine.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 9, 2004 15:39:30 GMT -5
The pattern is the problem. Taken alone, I would have just shrugged off this speech by Scalia. Also, there is a huge difference between a justice speaking before various support groups at one time or another, and going on a paid junket with a person whose actions are going to come before him in a case shortly thereafter. Perhaps I'm judging Scalia too harshly, but I honestly think his attitude is that he is going to do what he pleases, and since there is only the most remote likelihood that he will be removed from his position, damn the consequences.
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Post by showcase on Mar 11, 2004 11:34:54 GMT -5
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