sead43
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Post by sead43 on Oct 5, 2007 16:13:34 GMT -5
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Post by strummer8526 on Oct 5, 2007 17:36:03 GMT -5
Right. This board criticized an editorial in the Hoya that called for Margie Bryant's head. But I can tell you: her job could be done by 2-3 competent students. Rather than dealing with her real estate career, she needs to get her head out of her ass and get something done. This was supposed to have been completed 2 years ago.
Although I guess the asbestos isn't her fault, but I'm pretty sure that one's a little hush-hush.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 5, 2007 18:10:40 GMT -5
"ANC commissioners also expressed concerns that noise from the restaurant may disturb patients and staff at the university hospital, which is separated from Darnall Hall by only an outdoor parking lot."
Oh, how thoughtful of them.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Oct 6, 2007 15:39:21 GMT -5
That makes sense about the hospital and residents. Of course, with that logic there shouldn't be a dorm on top of the restaurant - or a campus near their homes - but other than that it seems like a pretty solid and cogent argument.
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Post by TigerHoya on Oct 6, 2007 19:03:43 GMT -5
It's like the people that move next to an air base and complain about the jet noise or the people that move to a subdivision next to a farm and complain about the smell of cow manure.
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Post by strummer8526 on Oct 6, 2007 21:26:09 GMT -5
That makes sense about the hospital and residents. Of course, with that logic there shouldn't be a dorm on top of the restaurant - or a campus near their homes - but other than that it seems like a pretty solid and cogent argument. Or they shouldn't have put their homes near an existing campus. I HATE HATE HATE HATE the Editeding neighborhood. Georgetown has always belonged to Jesuits and students. Accept that or go back to wherever in the country you came from (ie: New York and California). |
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Post by hoyatables on Oct 8, 2007 11:14:26 GMT -5
That makes sense about the hospital and residents. Of course, with that logic there shouldn't be a dorm on top of the restaurant - or a campus near their homes - but other than that it seems like a pretty solid and cogent argument. Or they shouldn't have put their homes near an existing campus. I HATE HATE HATE HATE the Editeding neighborhood. Georgetown has always belonged to Jesuits and students. Accept that or go back to wherever in the country you came from (ie: New York and California). Ummmm . . . 1) Plenty of those homes are as old as the University. 2) The University has grown considerably since many of the homes were built, as well as since a considerable number of residents have moved in. Look, it is a fairly unique situation, and part of what makes Georgetown so wonderful. Neighbors and students alike both have rights and responsibilities. You're absolutely correct that anyone who buys a house has an obligation to investigate the conditions prior to purchase and can't complain about a 6000-student university two blocks away or a student-occupied house next door. At the same time, the non-students do have every right to expect reasonable common courtesy when it comes to garbage, noise, and so on. It's unreasonable to expect absolute peace and quiet, particularly on Friday and Saturday nights. It's perfectly reasonable to expect that your next door neighbors will not let trash pile up or have music shaking the walls of your house at 3 AM. There's no need for a manichean rhetoric here. The students are not pure, and the residents are not evil. Those students who can't accept the fact that by moving off-campus they assume certain responsibilities should stay within the confines of Healy Gates. |
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Post by strummer8526 on Oct 8, 2007 12:10:55 GMT -5
I agree on most of those counts. I lived off campus on N St near campus for a year and then up on S St. the next year. There's obviously a difference in acceptable behavior in the different areas. Students definitely do, at times, cross the line. My problem is that it seems like the neighborhood opposes EVERYTHING. Just because some students are problems doesn't mean that everything the University proposes needs to get opposition from the neighborhood.
They opposed the Safety Shuttle bus loops. What kind of sense does that make? It gives students quicker and quieter ways to get where they're going. They're opposing an on-campus location that will keep students within the University! It just doesn't make sense, and it seems like the neighborhood barges in on everything just to make a point about how loud students are sometimes.
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Post by Boz on Oct 8, 2007 13:16:46 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Oct 8, 2007 13:26:22 GMT -5
That makes sense about the hospital and residents. Of course, with that logic there shouldn't be a dorm on top of the restaurant - or a campus near their homes - but other than that it seems like a pretty solid and cogent argument. The point is why should they care about whether it's noisy for the patients? That's like objecting to the the SW Quad because the rooms in the new Jez Rez aren't big enough for the Jesuits - it may be a valid concern, but it's not something the ANC should be worried about. |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 8, 2007 15:48:00 GMT -5
But it's certainly not a concern if being located on the campus isn't disturbing the patients then adding a resturant that will be mostly used by the university community will not bother them even if they do serve alcohol. The leavy center has places that serve alcohol that are closer to patient rooms than the darnal resturant will be. I don't hear any complaints about those establishments.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Oct 8, 2007 16:39:40 GMT -5
That makes sense about the hospital and residents. Of course, with that logic there shouldn't be a dorm on top of the restaurant - or a campus near their homes - but other than that it seems like a pretty solid and cogent argument. The point is why should they care about whether it's noisy for the patients? That's like objecting to the the SW Quad because the rooms in the new Jez Rez aren't big enough for the Jesuits - it may be a valid concern, but it's not something the ANC should be worried about. I thought the point was that logic is crazy. If it weren't for the University there wouldn't even be a hospital there to treat those people. Maybe the neighborhood should stop being so paternalistic. |
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Post by BurleithBeast on Oct 16, 2007 16:59:20 GMT -5
This is pretty much standard operating procedure for getting a bar licensed in D.C. these days. When a business goes before the city ABC board to get its liquor license, a "protest" can be filed by a group, I believe, of three or more. ANCs and neighborhood associations are the most common protesters, and those are usually resolved by the signing of what's somewhat Orwellianishly termed a "voluntary agreement." Common stipulations include restrictions on live music or dancing, hours of operation, sales of beer pitchers, happy hour and other specials, et al.
For instance, the Mount Pleasant ANC has protested every liquor license for years in order to force business owners to prohibit dancing and live music as terms for getting a liquor permit. The Kalaorama Citizens Association does the same thing to every bar in Adams Morgan.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Oct 25, 2007 15:10:45 GMT -5
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Oct 26, 2007 10:19:39 GMT -5
"The boathouse, which sprang up on the banks of the picturesque St. Mary's River in August, first drew criticism because it blocks residents' view of the river as they drive north on Route 5." Should drivers really be focusing on their view of the river as they drive? WTF? Everyone knows you need to focus on your in-dash DVD screen when driving, not some stupid river. |
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