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Post by HoyaScout on Oct 11, 2004 9:31:56 GMT -5
Not that impress with Crawfords efforts, it does matter who he goes up against, his stats only are impressive if this was a "good" team, VMI is not. My 7 year old son could post those numbers!. Drew should of been over 200 yards passing, and learn to be a little more mobile in pocket, especially against weaker defences. Monmouth is going to be his first real challange this year, if he's capable, haven't seen it yet, I'll be there watching. Just hope the coaches can swallow their pride when thing aren't going well, and put the youth back in.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Oct 11, 2004 11:07:16 GMT -5
If by youth you mean Cangelosi, then fine, but I think Allan should be kept out for a while. I'm not counting him out forever, but I don't think he's ready to play yet for whatever reason.
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Post by wolf10 on Oct 11, 2004 12:32:10 GMT -5
Crawford played his best game ever Saturday and This was a very banged up team,VMI. alot of lady luck went our way. Drew will get his chance to play in two weeks against some talent and he will be able to "show what he has" and that will depend on the play calling and the other Hoya offensive players. Lets hope they maintain their current prowess against a good defense and prevail. That has not been present against "good" teams the beginning of this season. WHY wasn't Canngelosi not given some Time with a 21 point lead in the 2nd quarter it would have given him some experience and confidence against a less talented team. The next two weeks will also give Allan time to fully heal, I heard that he had played before his high ankle sprain and hip bruise were 100%. GO HOYAS will be at the New Jersey game.
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Post by Observer on Oct 11, 2004 15:27:42 GMT -5
Perhaps there was a reason many of the current players wanted Drew Crawford in at Quarterback. They are more knowledgeable than all of the posters on this board.
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Post by HoyaFanatic on Oct 11, 2004 19:52:36 GMT -5
Drew Crawford made EVERY play he had to make. What is this talk that he should have been more mobile in the pocket?! He must have scrambled for at least SIX first downs and a touchdown.
Drew Crawford lead us to victory this weekend and will continue to do so in the future. Hoyas are finishing the season above .500 with him in there.
Benson doesn't call the offensive plays. The o-coordinator Uzelac does.
Note: The review of the game says that crawford threw an interception, but it was saunders (wr) on that pass.
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Post by david on Oct 12, 2004 9:49:27 GMT -5
From listening on the radio, it seemed like, as HoyaFanatic says, Crawford made every play he needed to. I was actually surprised he was as mobile as he was. He did great.
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Post by LBPop on Oct 12, 2004 12:19:32 GMT -5
Sometimes it's more than ahleticism. Watching him run, it's clear that Crawford isn't the athlete that Allan or Cangelosi are. But, it seemed that he consistently made yardage when he decided to run and he must have rushed for 3 or 4 important 3rd down conversions.
It seems to me that it's all about experience. Drew ran at the right times and followed his blocking beautifully. It also seemed like the rest of the offense raised their level of effort for him. Several times I saw offensive linemen 5 or 6 yards downfield maintaining their blocks on running plays. Doesn't matter who you are playing, that's serious effort and the only thing new this week was Drew Crawford. We've been saying all season that the team had more talent than they had shown. Might not be a coincidence that they showed it playing for Crawford.
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Post by wolf10 on Oct 12, 2004 13:55:01 GMT -5
LBPop are you implying that an Athlete recruited to play at GEORGETOWN, as a Hoya, would only show his very best depending on the QB. I think not from the players I"ve met. They want to win for the TEAM and themselves, not an individual. They show a lot of class, unless you have had someone on the team tell you its based on personality? I"M not saying it"s not possible but it is disturbing. NOW what happens if Drew plays and we don't win? I hope you are wrong. LET"S keep winning as a TEAM. See you in N.J.
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Post by Observer on Oct 12, 2004 14:26:35 GMT -5
The Qb is the leader of the offense. If he is making the right judgment calls (when to throw it away, when to tuck it in and run,etc) and he is moving the ball, this will feed to the other players on the field and the sidelines.It has nothing to do with players"quitting" or not giving their best effort for whoever the QB is,Wolf,. Rather , it is a simple fact in team sports (probably sports psychologists have a term for it; I think it is just plain confidence in your QB).If you have talked to players on the team, you would probably have realized there was a sense on their collective part of having more confidence that Crawford has "been there" and was the right guy to play . And it turns out , he performed admirably. It may well be that Allen may be more "athletic" or Cangelosi has a better arm. Crawford has the experience and on-field poise and should be the QB.
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Post by wolf10 on Oct 12, 2004 15:38:21 GMT -5
Observer I do agree with your assessment of a QB's job. My comment was realy directed to "might not be a coincidence that they showed{TALENT] playing for Crawford" Lets let this drop LB Pop has had some good commentary on this board and maybe I am reading more than I want into a possible hearsay comment. Lets just keep winning and bring some glory to Georgetown. A tongue can be our most dangerous weapon.
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Post by LBPop on Oct 12, 2004 17:27:47 GMT -5
Thanks for that last post, Wolf 10. I would never suggest for a moment that anyone on this team did not want to perform. Frankly, I have admired their effort during this frustrating past four weeks. I believe that there is no position in sports that has a greater impact physically or psychologically on a team's performance than the QB in football. History is full of stories of less gifted quarterbacks practically willing their teams to win.
I certainly have no inside information, but I believe that Saturday's win was not solely due to the level of competition--as some have implied. I saw Drew make some excellent decisions--especially in determining when it was time to run. I also saw this team make a lot fewer mistakes than in the past four weeks. Drew Crawford has been taking some hits lately and I just wanted to give him his due. Thanks again.
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Post by nychoya3 on Oct 12, 2004 21:17:01 GMT -5
Anyone having deja vu from 2001, when Dave Paulus was finally given the starting job and won every game he started (or close to it)? That would be great, but frustrating. Why wasn't the best guy starting to begin with?
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Post by DUMBASSNYC on Oct 16, 2004 22:24:12 GMT -5
Wouldn't you think if after all preseason and spring ball the coaches who are paid to due this job would have gone with the one they felt was the best QB... Stop the drinking and lay off the dumb questions...
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Post by nychoya3 on Oct 17, 2004 0:06:38 GMT -5
Yeah, coaches never make dumb decisions. Good point. And, no, I will not stop drinking.
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Post by HoyaFanatic on Oct 17, 2004 0:08:16 GMT -5
Nice response buddy....talk to anyone who has played for georgetown in the past years and you'll hear that they think of dave paulus as the savior of the 2002 season...just as they think of crawford as the reason we are going to rebound this season.
Before you trash other posters why dont you sit back and take a look at the stats. Regardless of who the coaches think "could" be the best, they make mistakes and maybe the two players mentioned by nychoya3 should have gotten the start over others.
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Post by nychoya3 on Oct 17, 2004 11:01:48 GMT -5
Well, it's tough to respond to an argument as cogently expressed as DUMBASSNYC's. In 2002, we were 1-4 when they gave Paulus the start against Davidson, and we went 3-2 the rest of the way. That includes our first PL win over Bucknell, when Dave was named D-IAA offensive player of the week with a 350 yards 5 td performance. I think the numbers speak for themselves. Maybe he wasn't the savior, but when he became starter, the season went from embarrassing to promising. Crawford isn't the savior either. But his performances have been respectable, where, with all due respect, Allan's have been lousy. That's apparent to everyone.
I haven't talked to anyone about this years team. But I definitely did in 2002, and not everyone feels the same as you.
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Post by HoyaFanatic on Oct 17, 2004 11:47:28 GMT -5
nychoya3, i was responding to the post by dumbassnyc...sorry for the confusion, i agree with everything youre saying.
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Post by nychoya3 on Oct 17, 2004 14:09:20 GMT -5
oops. i should really read posts before i throw a fit.
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Post by NickHoya215 on Oct 27, 2004 20:53:50 GMT -5
Keith Allan is a sophmore and needs time to grow. But i think that Crawford should be in becasue of experience. VMI wasn't a very good opponent becasue of injury but Georgetown has problem recruiting without scholarships and admissions standards and so the good athletes come few and far between.
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Post by colorless raider on Oct 29, 2004 11:38:30 GMT -5
Excuse me? Go perform a comparative analysis of PL schools in terms of undergraduate admissions selectivity as measured across a variety of indices, destinations/career path of graduates, scholarly publications of faculty, etc. Once you have some basis in fact on which to post, then maybe your posts will have some content worthy of consideration. Let's see....Patrick Ewing, Michael Grham, Allan what's his name oh and Clinton. Go for it!
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