LBPop
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Post by LBPop on Oct 5, 2004 11:26:38 GMT -5
Hey, Grim Reeper. Where did you hear that Crawford is starting...I'd like to check it out. As an aside, I have already gone on record that I would like to see him get the start for two reasons: 1)Team needs some senior leadership to get on track; 2)He's earned it over 3.5 years and, to the best of my knowledge, has been a solid teammate despite being benched this year.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Oct 5, 2004 11:31:18 GMT -5
Hey, Grim Reeper. Where did you hear that Crawford is starting...I'd like to check it out. As an aside, I have already gone on record that I would like to see him get the start for two reasons: 1)Team needs some senior leadership to get on track; 2)He's earned it over 3.5 years and, to the best of my knowledge, has been a solid teammate despite being benched this year. Yeah, that's a very good point. I would also like to see Cangelosi get on the field though. I was hoping that he would start this game but I guess the staff doesn't think he's quite ready. In that case I'm definitely in favor of Drew getting the start on Saturday.
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Post by HoyaFanatic on Oct 5, 2004 13:07:44 GMT -5
Formerplayer, im sure you were one of those guys who never played on the team, but wanted to stay a part of it so you could tell everyone you played for georgetown. Give us some of ur career stats so we can see how much of a star you were and how much better of an athlete you must have been than supporters of the program.
VMI is not some garbage team. There record is 0-5 but they have lost (still managing to put points up - something allan has yet to do) against a 1-a program and i think 2 other scholarship teams in the a-10.
We're 1-4 and i dont believe we are some garbage team so dont assume that records show everything.
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Post by fmrhoya on Oct 5, 2004 16:05:25 GMT -5
as a former player, i think dont think we should be insulting what fan base we have among the students considering we only get about 2000 fans a game, if that
however, the opinions of the ex-players should be taken more seriously than those who are supporters of the team because those who played (regardless of how much P.T. they got, hoyafanatic) know what goes on "behind the scenes" in the program, and understand the mentality of the coaching staff. we are also more invested in the success of the program because we gave our entire college experiences to it, instead of just complaining about losses on saturday afternoons after a friday night out at Rhino.
maybe the student body that is constantly criticizing allan and posting messages on how much he and some of the other players on the team "suck" should try suiting up sometime against patriot league athletes, alot of people who played J.V. Lacrosse in high school on the hilltop would be pretty suprised to find out what college football is all about. this is not meant to demean the athleticism of the student body, but its not that easy, and the level of committment is enormous, even if it isnt "big time" college football.
that being said, i think crawford should be the QB, and over time the coaching staff has been suspect at best in their personell decisions, the most notable of which was sitting Paulus his whole junior year and 1/2 of his senior year. and in case anyone has forgotten, if the staff had it their way, he probably would not have played at all. Its not always a good move to sit your best player when you move up into a confrence that produced the national runner up is it?
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Post by BEERGUTS on Oct 5, 2004 18:10:57 GMT -5
Go Crawford....... As a former player I agree that Paulus was our best offensive weapon and sat on the bench... I have talked to some of the receivers personally and they are pysched about drew starting this game, as am I
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Post by GUHoya07 on Oct 5, 2004 21:00:29 GMT -5
fmrhoya,
I just want to make it clear that I never said Allan sucks. However, I also didn't sugarcoat things and say that he is doing well. I'm just glad that someone else will get a chance to start this week and show us what they have.
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david
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Post by david on Oct 5, 2004 22:23:02 GMT -5
If the receivers are psyched for Crawford to start, than that's more than good enough for me. Hopefully we will spread it out this game.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Oct 5, 2004 22:43:17 GMT -5
I don't think we have any other choice. If Crawford is playing then I think they'll be expecting him to get the ball in the air. I sure hope we don't see any option with Drew, I want to see him passing the pigskin.
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Post by david on Oct 5, 2004 22:47:46 GMT -5
Good point. WIth Crawford in, it does certainly limit the option, but obviously opens up a whole new passing game. I agree with you; Crawford should throw the ball 30 times this game.
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Post by Go Hoyas on Oct 6, 2004 9:29:45 GMT -5
It was probably time for a change at QB. However, Keith Allen was certainly a victim of awful play calling. I was at the game Saturday ( first one this year) and all I had read and heard about until then was how bad Allen is and that Crawford should be playing. I have news for you...when your QB throws 6 passes in a game it usually means the running game is running up and down the field and therefore, there is no need to throw. Not the case here. Running game is lousy as well. Crawford threw twice as many passes in 2 series than Allen threw all game. Not fair to Allen unless coaches don't feel confident with him throwing downfield. Other than the hail mary at the end of the game which accounted for lots of the yardage, Crawford didn't impress me. However I was happy to see that those pass plays actually exist in the play book because, based on the plays they were calling for Allen, I wasn't sure what pass plays we had.
Good luck to Drew. Hopefully we can turn it around this week. However, this change doesn't fix the problem, only puts a bandaid on it. The young QB's need the experience if we're looking ahead to the future.
Lastly, in defense of Keith...VMI at 0-5 isn't exactly Dusquene, Colgate & Bucknell. Let's keep that in mind as well.
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Post by NJ Connection on Oct 6, 2004 20:11:19 GMT -5
Lets cut to whats real here. Cangelosi left UNC because he didn't like the environment and the kids he was playing with. He did not want to be in Chapel Hill for 5 years including summers. Thats the only reason he left. Ranked in the top 50 QB's nationally by both Prep Star & Rivals heading into his Senior HS year, he was the front cover of UNC's Recruit Magazine. The kid is 2nd all-time TD passer in S. Jersey with 60 in 3 Yrs and had 12 D-1 offers from -ACC, SEC & Big East schools. Do you believe Benson didn't recruit him on bended knee when he found out he was released. Give it time, and we will have a solid QB that will also have the ability to help the coaching staff recruit higher skilled players.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Oct 6, 2004 21:27:46 GMT -5
I certainly hope you're right about that. If he can really live up to his billing coming out of high school it would be huge for the future of our program.
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Post by david on Oct 6, 2004 21:37:55 GMT -5
Anyone know why the official football site lists Cangelosi as a sophomore? I know we've gone into this a little before, but it still doesn't make much sense. If he is a football freshmen (following a redshirt year), why not list him like that. maybe someone should email the SID or football office.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Oct 6, 2004 21:46:41 GMT -5
well, Im assuming that he's technically a sophomore since that is what he is academically. He has four years of eligibility, but he is a sophomore.
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Post by david on Oct 6, 2004 22:00:52 GMT -5
alright, but referring to him as a sophomore in a football setting is still misleading (or it was to me at least).
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Post by NJ Connection on Oct 6, 2004 22:00:56 GMT -5
You are right. Nick Cangelosi was a redshirt at Chapel Hill and dropped from D-1A to D-1AA (Georgetown) therfore securing 4 years of eligibility. Exactly what a kid should do coming from his situation. Would he have gone to another D-1A institution, he would lose a year (sit-out) of eligibility. In fact, if he would have transfered back into the ACC, UNC coach Bunting could have protested his release by NCAA rules. Thanks NICK
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Post by LBPop on Oct 7, 2004 12:29:16 GMT -5
Another reason I'm optimistic about Cangelosi is that with all that high school hype and all the D-1 offers, he could have come into Georgetown (moving from IA to a mediocre IAA program) with a real attitude. All I've seen and all I've heard is that he is a terrific teammate. He and Allan give us some real hope for the future. Now, if only Crawford can lead this team to a few more victories this season...
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 7, 2004 20:08:23 GMT -5
This week's depth chart on the official game notes:
1. Crawford 2. Cangelosi
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Post by GUHoya07 on Oct 7, 2004 20:30:02 GMT -5
Good to hear, thanks DFW.
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Post by david on Oct 8, 2004 23:50:48 GMT -5
interesting how it changed. if i remember correctly, last week it was: 1. Allen, 2. Cangelosi, 3. Crawford. This is a rare circumstance where the 3rd string and 1st string flip places, as opposed to the 2nd string, who has only attempted 5 passes all year long.
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