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Post by rockyhoyashow on Dec 15, 2007 8:57:04 GMT -5
tinyurl.com/2p396wBetween Camille and Barker, looks like every Hoya player will have an article written on him by season's end!
Is it just me or are there even more in depth articles being written on Georgetown hoops this season?
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Dhall
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Post by Dhall on Dec 15, 2007 9:00:36 GMT -5
Very proud of Jeremiah and he obviously comes from a supportive family. He identified the major weakness in his game and worked his butt off this summer to improve it. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he ends up as a starting guard for this team at some point. In the meantime, he is exactly the type of bench player we want: adds a different dimension than the starting guards, doesn't complain about his role but wants to improve and earn more time.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 15, 2007 9:05:44 GMT -5
Think the guy that coached Jeremiah on his shooting is available for Vern's free throws?
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mapei
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Post by mapei on Dec 15, 2007 9:23:50 GMT -5
Heh.
Jeremiah is definitely becoming one of my favorites.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Dec 15, 2007 9:32:18 GMT -5
It's odd that Jeremiah sought the expertise of his NBA all-star and head coach father to improve a weakness in his game. Any sane young man would have transferred after reading a message board declaring him "odd man out" in the rotation due to a strong backcourt recruiting class.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 15, 2007 10:06:24 GMT -5
Think the guy that coached Jeremiah on his shooting is available for Vern's free throws? ;D Was thinking the same thing. That's the advantage I guess of having a rich and well-connected dad who was a former pro and is a current coach. You know the best people in the business to improve aspects of someone's game, have the clout to get in direct contact with them and have the dough to pay them to work their magic. Still all credit to Rivers for improving his game and working long and early hours to do so. He must have totally reconstructed his shot over the course of the summer. That takes some doing because when you play games (whether summer league or legit college games) and that new shot doesn't fall you have the tendency to want to resort back to your old shooting form that, no matter how bad the results, feels more natural. It's odd that Jeremiah sought the expertise of his NBA all-star and head coach father to improve a weakness in his game. Any sane young man would have transferred after reading a message board declaring him "odd man out" in the rotation due to a strong backcourt recruiting class. Dagger. Don't get me started on that. Its one thing for folks on MDVarsity who are all about hyping the area stars and putting down guys like Jeremiah months before the season began, but for Hoya fans who you presume are really paying attention to the team to dismiss Jeremiah so readily was simply bizarre. At least to me. You would have thought Rivers sucked or something when in reality even with his suspect shooting last season he still gave the team great size at the pg, great handle and court vision, good passing and awesome defense.
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Post by sweetness on Dec 15, 2007 10:39:00 GMT -5
Great story -- I love when guys put the work in to try to turn a negative into a positive. Rivers brings a great dimesion to the team.
I loved the 'future' lineup we had against 'Bama at one point - Wright, Rivers, Freeman, Summers, Macklin -- I re-watched the tape of the game, and this line-up looked good, did some nice things.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 15, 2007 12:56:41 GMT -5
What are the chances of a Sapp, rivers starting back court next year? I think it's very possible at this point. Not many people would've thought that last year.
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Post by Hoyagimp68 on Dec 15, 2007 13:34:30 GMT -5
Maybe this has been mentioned before, and apropos of nothing except a discussion of line-ups, we could actually field a decent team of jersey #'s 1,2,3,4,5 this year. Now next year who might we like to be wearing #2? Just a tidbit for those who like to play the numbers game.
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 15, 2007 13:49:30 GMT -5
Maybe this has been mentioned before, and apropos of nothing except a discussion of line-ups, we could actually field a decent team of jersey #'s 1,2,3,4,5 this year. Now next year who might we like to be wearing #2? Just a tidbit for those who like to play the numbers game. I am more interested in who will be wearing #33. There's a 6'10 kid in Detroit, Class of '09, who favors that number and is said to favor the Hoyas too. As for Jeremiah, great story of dedication and determination. OK, some special help from his Dad... but so what. He still had to put in the hours and do the work. And so far, the results look good. Good for Jeremiah!
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Post by RBHoya on Dec 15, 2007 13:55:00 GMT -5
I think a lot of the people who wrote off Rivers prior to this year were those who don't recognize that he has a lot of skills besides just scoring. People who watch games more casually just see that he struggled with outside shooting, and from that they decide that he isn't a good player. They don't realize that he's a good ballhandler, defender, and generally intelligent player.
We'll see how the rest of the year plays out (and not to touch off another debate on this) but at the moment there is a very reasonable case to be made that Jeremiah slide into the starting spot vacated by Jon next season.
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Post by jgalt on Dec 15, 2007 14:02:34 GMT -5
The students especially (excluding those on this board) have a skewed opinion of Rivers. i always hear "what are you doing!!!" from various students every time Rivers shoots the three. this year i am able to turn around to these fools with a smug smile after Rivers drains it.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 15, 2007 14:05:40 GMT -5
What are the chances of a Sapp, rivers starting back court next year? I think it's very possible at this point. Not many people would've thought that last year. I don't know if there's all that good of a chance. As terrific as those two players are and will be I still think that from a talent standpoint Freeman and Wright are better. I can't see both Freeman and Wright coming off the bench again next season. One perhaps. But not both.
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Post by FLHoya on Dec 15, 2007 14:09:59 GMT -5
I think a lot of the people who wrote off Rivers prior to this year were those who don't recognize that he has a lot of skills besides just scoring. People who watch games more casually just see that he struggled with outside shooting, and from that they decide that he isn't a good player. They don't realize that he's a good ballhandler, defender, and generally intelligent player. We'll see how the rest of the year plays out (and not to touch off another debate on this) but at the moment there is a very reasonable case to be made that Jeremiah slide into the starting spot vacated by Jon next season. I think this is a normal bias most folks have when watching basketball games. It's not necessarily a bad thing, just a fact of life. People like scoring. Dunks get cheers. Sportscenter never puts a successfully drawn charge on its Top Ten Plays (at least not in the post-Battier era ) I can tell you from writing recaps, it's very hard to evaluate how someone plays defense. I take notes during games, but prob. 80% of that is who scored and how, and the remaining 20% is divided between what kind of TEAM defense we were playing, whether we started to run a faster tempo or press, whether someone fouled out. If defense comes up in my notes, it would tend to be something like last game when Patrick Ewing had 2-3 steals out at the perimeter, a somewhat "dramatic" example of defense. Barring some spectacular defensive shutdown over the course of a game--two recent examples being what Owens/Cook did to Gerry McNamara in Feb 2006 and Aaron's Gray's crapfest in the BET Finals last March--defense of the type Rivers excels at is largely going to go unheralded. Although maybe that's changing these days. Even though this article focused mainly on his shooting, I think people are paying more attention to JR's contributions this season, and that usually includes rave reviews of his defensive presence. This can only be a good thing IMO...and if JR adds an offensive element to his game, so much the better.
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Post by RBHoya on Dec 15, 2007 14:15:14 GMT -5
I don't know if there's all that good of a chance. As terrific as those two players are and will be I still think that from a talent standpoint Freeman and Wright are better. I can't see both Freeman and Wright coming off the bench again next season. One perhaps. But not both. Rivers and Sapp can start in the backcourt. Freeman can start at 3, with DaJuan at 4. Not that I necessarily think that's what it'll be, but certainly a possibility IMO.
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Post by afalcon10 on Dec 15, 2007 14:27:27 GMT -5
can anybody post all the links to these feature top articles in one place
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Post by hoyastrong on Dec 15, 2007 14:50:53 GMT -5
What are the chances of a Sapp, rivers starting back court next year? I think it's very possible at this point. Not many people would've thought that last year. I like jeremiah just as much as anyone else, but I think wright and freeman are just too good. Theres a chance, but I'd say very little. If anything, only because of an extra year under his belt.
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Post by mapei on Dec 15, 2007 15:26:54 GMT -5
Having to choose which two to start out of Jessie, Jeremiah and Chris is a very nice problem to have. Assuming natural maturing and cutting down on mistakes by all the freshmen, I'd be comfortable with any two of those three.
I don't see Austin as competing with those three. Although he doesn't have the same height, he likely will be competing with Monroe and DaJuan for another two spots, and Vernon will step into Roy's shoes, as much as anyone can ("dress like a Hoya," anyone?).
Speaking of defense, I watched the DVD of last year's BC game. Jeff had a somewhat quiet game offensively but he was awesome on D,
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 15, 2007 15:37:18 GMT -5
great story great kid best on the ball defender and have heard people say hes the fastest on d adn in high school great hed defened the best players no matter how tall wowoowo and great story about guts and practice i dont think ive taken five hundred shot in my LIFETIME never mind in a day AND DIDNOT JESSE DO THE SAME THIS SUMMER IN NYC what a great bunch of hard working guys good luck with exams and dont forget to beat the highlanders tonite no more va. team upsets in mcdonough EVER go hoyas come out and get roy the ball you know the seven footer we DO have ok?? merry christmas to all lets have a prechristmas and pre memphis great present TAKE NO PRISONERS NOPE go hoyas go jeremiah hit those threes and stone cold defense radford has some shooters STOP EM BUDDY YES ;D ;D ;D PS good thought about coaching for vernons foul looking shots.. i think a little change and confidence and hes be ther go hoyas
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Post by Eurostar on Dec 15, 2007 15:54:36 GMT -5
Sapp, Rivers, Freeman, Summers, Monroe
Macklin and Wright are the first guys off the bench. Macklin could come in for anybody and shift everyone down, and Wright would come in for Sapp/Rivers/Freeman.
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