12/14 & 12/15 Games on interest

[lichoya68]

dont like to see anybody hurt well almost anybody sorry for cuse devanfofff and the big easy losses are piling up vs. pretty minor and bad teams ouch go hoyas come on big east get it rolling please almost feb you know

[vcjack]

mciguy said:

DePaul lost to a team called the Illinois Chicago Flames. That sounds like a minor league WNBA team for goodness sakes.

The Flames are in the Horizon League and led by some guy named Mayo but not the Mayo that one could excuse DePaul for losing to a team with him on the roster.


Did I mention DePaul was at home?

Oh and apparently Central Michigan got the best of Michigan, Grabby's team was booed by the Ann Arbour faithful


They lost to the flames? Oh my lord that's bad. UIC has had good teams in the past but that is unacceptable, I repeat my call for Wainright to get fired IMMEDIATELY!

[vamosalaplaya]

Trivia question for the old timers - or sort of old timers - Niagara just beat St. John's - the NY Times headline today blared that it was the first time since 1963.

In the 1984-85 season St. Johns got upset out of conference once before coming into Landover and beating Georgetown, the first of their four meetings. That is my recollection - one of their weaker OOC opponents beat them. I had thought it was Niagara that beat them that year, by a point.

St. John's doesn't seem to have anything like DFW's history project, was wondering if I have the wrong team beating St. Johns early that year.

[HoyaChris]

vamosalaplaya said:

Trivia question for the old timers - or sort of old timers - Niagara just beat St. John's - the NY Times headline today blared that it was the first time since 1963.

In the 1984-85 season St. Johns got upset out of conference once before coming into Landover and beating Georgetown, the first of their four meetings. That is my recollection - one of their weaker OOC opponents beat them. I had thought it was Niagara that beat them that year, by a point.

St. John's doesn't seem to have anything like DFW's history project, was wondering if I have the wrong team beating St. Johns early that year.

The headline should have referred - and maybe did, I didn't read it - to Niagara winning at St John's. Niagara did win 62-59 that year in Niagara Falls.

[HoyaSinceBirth]

Question why did we take depaul and not say i don't memphis? The chicago market? I've heard rumours of tension between louisville and memphis kept memphis out? I think memphis would've been a much better adition basketball wise. I guess depaul is much more in the mold of a BE school but memphis would fit in fine with the louisville's, WV's Uconn's and syracuse's.

[Hoya50]

vcjack said:

tarkman said:

For thosewho may not have yet heard. Syracuse won big tonight , but not without sustaining a potential loss. Devendorff hurt his knee badly, was helped of the court, and latest news is he may miss a substantial part, if not the rest, of the season.

Also, Boeheim announced in the post game presser that Josh Wright would no longer be part of the team.

That's too bad, Devendorf gets a bad rap but injury is never a good thing to happen. I'll take the high road on this one

i think there's a common consensus with this kid, but i would not wish injury on anyone. that's just bad karma.

[vcjack]

hoyasincebirth said:

Question why did we take depaul and not say i don't memphis? The chicago market? I've heard rumours of tension between louisville and memphis kept memphis out? I think memphis would've been a much better adition basketball wise. I guess depaul is much more in the mold of a BE school but memphis would fit in fine with the louisville's, WV's Uconn's and syracuse's.

I've thought about this too but this is my method of thinking
1. Chicago market
2. Catholic
3. Non football
4. History
5. Would ease Marquette's transition in

[RBHoya]

hoyasincebirth said:

Question why did we take depaul and not say i don't memphis? The chicago market? I've heard rumours of tension between louisville and memphis kept memphis out? I think memphis would've been a much better adition basketball wise. I guess depaul is much more in the mold of a BE school but memphis would fit in fine with the louisville's, WV's Uconn's and syracuse's.

They wanted to keep the balance of Big East Football schools and non Big East football schools at 8-8. If they took Memphis, then it woulda been 9-7 and the GU, VU, MU, PC, SHU, SJU and ND would have been outvoted on everything by the football schools. Plus, if the conference does eventually divide into 2, which back then most people thought was sort of inevitable, you need 8 teams that have been playing together for 5 years already to start a new conference, or something like that. So if we had another football school, then the basketball schools would have been totally screwed.

Kinda complex, but it boils down to needing a school that wasn't a football school to keep balance. The Chicago market didn't hurt either, though Depaul is far from the talk of the town in the windy city from what I hear.

[jerseyhoya34]

I would have taken Memphis instead of South Florida. I understand wanting exposure in a big sports market in FL, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that USF has the same cache as UF, FSU, and, even these days, Miami.

Even in the "old" BE with Miami in the mix, I thought it was a bit of a stretch, with the closest school in the league to Miami being VTech. But, I could understand having Miami for football reasons and the occasional tough out in basketball. USF just struck me as a "project" and not as safe a bet as Memphis.

[LizziebethHoya]

tarkman said:

For thosewho may not have yet heard. Syracuse won big tonight , but not without sustaining a potential loss. Devendorff hurt his knee badly, was helped of the court, and latest news is he may miss a substantial part, if not the rest, of the season.

Also, Boeheim announced in the post game presser that Josh Wright would no longer be part of the team.

It seems like one player leaves SU in the middle of every season after having a cat fight with Jimmy B. But Jimmy B doesnt give his reserves much playing time even when they are up by 30 against a so-so team like E. Tenn, so it is really no wonder why the reserves get upset and storm off of the team. And the starters are then more prone to injury, etc.

However, I do feel bad about Devendork. Now the Cuse fans will have an excuse for why they lost to us (twice), didn't make the NCAA, and every other horrible thing that happens to them this season...

[HoyaSinceBirth]

Yeah i figured that was the reason, I agree with memphis over USF. Oh well. maybe we can trade later.

[theexorcist]

South Florida is located in Florida, which is, along with California and Texas, the best place for football recruiting. Tennessee is dominated by UT. South Florida also has excellent baseball and soccer programs.

DePaul has a top-position women's softball team, and gives the conference a location in the Chicago market, where rights fees are higher than Memphis.

Memphis is located in a small media market that's dominated by a much bigger school and that always will be. It has a relative paucity of sports compared to USF and DePaul. It's football team is average, its baseball team is pretty good, and its basketball team is excellent. From an all-sports and a value to the conference perspective, Memphis loses out big-time.

[RBHoya]

The only people who care about non-revenue sports in college are those who played them and the really really tiny percentage of us who are on message boards like this. Depaul over Memphis was about balance. USF over Memphis was about football. Period.

And in truth, USF football has been pretty decent. Certainly better than teams like Pitt and Cuse since they joined the conference.