RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Dec 10, 2007 23:51:23 GMT -5
Monroe and Vern will be the starting bigs next season, so they both have to improve. Wright-Sapp-Freeman-Summers-Monroe 6. Rivers 7. Macklin 8. Sims 9. Clark/Braswell I'm sure this will be debated several times in the next 10 months or so and this thread isn't the place, I just thought I'd raise the point that Vernon isn't a lock unless he improves. I don't think anybody is really a lock other than Jessie and DaJuan, and I think III will play the best players the most minutes. As of right now, that would be MY choice, though we'll see by the end of the year and by the start of next year.
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Post by vcjack on Dec 11, 2007 0:01:08 GMT -5
Monroe and Vern will be the starting bigs next season, so they both have to improve. Wright-Sapp-Freeman-Summers-Monroe 6. Rivers 7. Macklin 8. Sims 9. Clark/Braswell I'm sure this will be debated several times in the next 10 months or so and this thread isn't the place, I just thought I'd raise the point that Vernon isn't a lock unless he improves. I don't think anybody is really a lock other than Jessie and DaJuan, and I think III will play the best players the most minutes. As of right now, that would be MY choice, though we'll see by the end of the year and by the start of next year. You think Henry will be more ready to contribute as a frosh than Braswell?
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Post by RBHoya on Dec 11, 2007 0:14:10 GMT -5
Possibly. I've heard that Braswell might not be here for summer ball/workouts due to needing to finish up some academic things, hopefully. Note that this is just hearsay... We shall see over the course of the year how the two stack up, but I think that Henry has a skillset that will go very nicely in our offense.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 11, 2007 0:17:02 GMT -5
Monroe and Vern will be the starting bigs next season, so they both have to improve. Wright-Sapp-Freeman-Summers-Monroe 6. Rivers 7. Macklin 8. Sims 9. Clark/Braswell I'm sure this will be debated several times in the next 10 months or so and this thread isn't the place, I just thought I'd raise the point that Vernon isn't a lock unless he improves. Well, if we're gonna go there maybe we should be reminded that its not a lock that Summers comes back either. Perhaps we need to hold off on all speculation for right now.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 11, 2007 0:18:29 GMT -5
Possibly. I've heard that Braswell might not be here for summer ball/workouts due to needing to finish up some academic things, hopefully. Note that this is just hearsay... We shall see over the course of the year how the two stack up, but I think that Henry has a skillset that will go very nicely in our offense. Regardless most pundits think Sims' upside is bigger but that he will take longer to be ready for the wars of college hoops compared to Braswell.
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Post by idhoya on Dec 11, 2007 0:24:10 GMT -5
RBhoya,
I would say: Sapp-Free-Summers-Greg-VMack. Incredibly quick and fast
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Post by RBHoya on Dec 11, 2007 0:25:06 GMT -5
We shall see. Braswell, like fellow Hargraver Macklin, has done little to really impress me since making his decision to be a Hoya. Not that I catch a lot of their games or anything, but other than originally coming with a high ranking, Braswell's resume has been pedestrian at best. He's had injuries, he's had academic problems, and he's had one or two good games, scholastic or AAU, out of many. He's well-rounded, etc. etc. etc. but the buzz around Braswell has steadily declined, where the buzz around Henry was definitely increasing all last season.
Again, we'll see.
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Post by idhoya on Dec 11, 2007 0:32:44 GMT -5
Second five: Wright-baby doc-Nikita-Bras-Henry. Jury out on Nikita.
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Post by balla on Dec 11, 2007 1:18:34 GMT -5
All good points. We should probably save the next year projections for another thread. Who knows what the defending national champs will look like next year(LOL).
The only thing I will say about next year is that GU will press more, and switch more.
BTW. Gonzaga plays Oconnell today Tuesday. Clark, Thornton, and Marshall all playing.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 11, 2007 8:15:20 GMT -5
We shall see. Braswell, like fellow Hargraver Macklin, has done little to really impress me since making his decision to be a Hoya. Not that I catch a lot of their games or anything, but other than originally coming with a high ranking, Braswell's resume has been pedestrian at best. He's had injuries, he's had academic problems, and he's had one or two good games, scholastic or AAU, out of many. He's well-rounded, etc. etc. etc. but the buzz around Braswell has steadily declined, where the buzz around Henry was definitely increasing all last season. Again, we'll see. I think every good article concerning Braswell must be skipped over by most of the readers on this board. Braswell has been kicking tail since the spring, out playing big men ranked way higher than him. Draftexpress simply gushed about his performances last month and one well respected recruiting guru wrote to expect Braswell's ranking and reputation to make a big leap as the season progresses. I'm not trying to dog Sims but I haven't read anything as glowing about him these past six months except for one blurb on Draftexpress late this summer. I'll give Sims the nod in having his academics in order which is the most important thing. However from what I've picked up Braswell, if he is eligible, appears to be the most physically ready of the two to contribute immediately. But I won't speculate who will be a starter or who will come off the bench for the Hoyas next year. Speculation about any of next season's players is too early IMO.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 11, 2007 10:58:32 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of Sims and think he has good pro potential, but Braswell slapped around Terrence Jennings (who no one would say isn't physically ready for the BE). I doubt he could do that if he was too weak for the Big East. Still I view them as more complementary players -- Braswell with some girth and a nose for the ball inside and Sims who might play a little more as a jump shooter and shot blocker.
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Post by RDF on Dec 11, 2007 13:45:28 GMT -5
A few things about Braswell/Sims:
1. We're fortunate to have both coming into program as Hoyas
2. Their games compliment one another perfectly--Braswell has outstanding dropstep/post moves/nice touch to 15 feet, Sims can face up to 3 pt line--although I'd settle for FT line ;D--and Sims has an improving post game--needs a bit more strength--but again-he's 17 years old--just like Greg Monroe as HS seniors and both don't turn 18 until after the new year.
3. Braswell's last game at DeMatha--or one of the last games--he had 21 rebounds against current Syracuse players--and outstanding HS team--Neumann Goretti--Rick Jackson, Scoop Jardine are Cuse Frosh, and Goretti had some other fine players as well. Braswell was just coming off his injury--and had rust offensively--but he owned the glass--out of his 21 boards-I'd say at least 10 were offensive rebounds--most being off missed jumpshots.
4. Braswell has now played HS ball with Austin Freeman, AAU Ball with Jason Clark, and it's never a bad thing to have inside players comfortable with some guards/know their games.
5. Sims is a kid who will end up a NBA player if he does what is expected on/off the court--this is perfect program for him.
6. Both kids will have less pressure on them and can focus on their development due to Greg Monroe's presence--and these 3 kids are some of the most skilled I've seen GU bring in as froncourt players in terms of their inside game/outside skill level--nice touch, excellent passers, good defensively, and can run the floor.
7. Every kid Hoyas have signed is a superior rebounder--and get rebounds in space/out of their area--for those who don't know what I'm referring to--Roy is a good rebounder--but the minute ball is up for grabs--goes away from him--his lack of lateral quickness/explosion hurts him--now Braswell and Sims aren't guys who are above the rim players--but they can get rebounds that are out of their area--Monroe is an outstanding rebounder and Dajuan Summers is team's best in terms of getting boards out of his area. Jason Clark might be the 2nd best rebounder in class behind Monroe--and that is sick for a 6'2 guard--his rebounding is Sapp-like. (which is why I think this recruiting class is vastly underrated considering all of the areas the 4 signees excel at)
As mentioned above--Braswell destroyed Terrence "Fake Amare Stoudemire" Jennings in a tournament, was named MVP of the Reebok ABCD All Star Underclassmen Game--in Sonny Vacarro's last camp--which was loaded with talent, and Henry Sims is someone who will shock many pundits by being a fantastic college player--much sooner then they thought. If you think Roy's development was amazing--wait until this Staff gets Sims and some weight on him.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 11, 2007 13:59:23 GMT -5
I'll add the obvious that it was hard to Braswell to make much of an impression on the court last season considering he rarely suited up. So he's starting from scatch again when it comes to recruiting gurus.
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Post by balla on Dec 11, 2007 15:43:57 GMT -5
How many games has Sims' team played so far? Does anyone know if they are in any national tournies?
Edit: Check that, thanks Ambass. Sims plays at Oak Hill. That will be a good game to see how he fairs against other elite bigs...
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 11, 2007 22:21:06 GMT -5
Sims had 19 in a 76-32 rout of Edgewood earlier this week.
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 11, 2007 22:34:08 GMT -5
all of them rebounders wowowoowo gohoyas go rebbies ;D
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Post by JimmyHoya on Dec 11, 2007 23:50:12 GMT -5
Apparently Clark played real well tonight against #2 DC ranked Gonzaga despite O'Connell's 70-62 loss. He has to carry the load big time a la Chris Wright for St. John's last year.
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Post by RBHoya on Dec 11, 2007 23:54:54 GMT -5
Apparently Clark played real well tonight against #2 DC ranked Gonzaga despite O'Connell's 70-62 loss. He has to carry the load big time a la Chris Wright for St. John's last year. Carry? What about backcourt mate Kendall Marshall, the greatest point guard in the history of the world ( : ?
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 11, 2007 23:59:18 GMT -5
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Post by JimmyHoya on Dec 12, 2007 0:16:31 GMT -5
I kinda like those articles, Jersey. They make us look great when you put that side to side with the monster Wallace article from a weeks before. One guy has a superior mind on and off the court, the other is a car collector. It's like G'town vs. UMCP in a nutshell.
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