idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Dec 5, 2007 10:19:26 GMT -5
Naji not related to Roy.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 5, 2007 11:40:25 GMT -5
I went to see Hargrave play against the Guilford College JV team last night, as Guilford is located near my home in Greensboro. I missed the first half, as Hargrave's site listed the start time as 7:30 rather than 7:00, but I saw the second half.
Braswell looked decent. He is a fairly good athlete who got above the rim for a couple of dunks. Other than that, there wasn't much to say, as Hargrave destroyed the far inferior competition in a sloppy game. I will say that there was a huge disparity in talent in relation to the 2006 Hargrave team I saw play, with Macklin, Tyler Smith and company. But Braswell has at least a couple of other decent players to go up against in practice, including Roscoe Davis, who is a D-1 athlete with some size.
Braswell looked to be having fun and seemed to have good rapport with his teammates. He will give us some size, but he needs to bulk up before he will be a factor in the Big East. I imagine him getting minimal time for a year or two and then competing for a spot as an upperclassman.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 5, 2007 12:37:46 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree. Braswell does not need a year or two to bulk up to play in the BE. People go overboard with this. Freshmen with less defined builds are thrown into the BE wars all the time and many come away being able to hold their own.
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Post by RBHoya on Dec 5, 2007 12:53:56 GMT -5
Naji unrelated to Roy but maybe a player of interest anyway. One of the better juniors in the area and potentially somebody the staff will look at depending on how scholarships go.
Agree with MCI to an extent, in that most freshman don't come in with well-developed bodies. Some do, but it's unlikely. Assuming he arrives with Monroe and Sims, while DaJuan and Vernon are still here, he figures to not get an overwhelming amount of minutes as a freshman anyway, but in his sophomore year and beyond he will really be counted on.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 5, 2007 14:40:10 GMT -5
Well, perhaps others who have seen him play more often can fill me in. How skilled is he? It was impossible to tell last night. He had a couple of nice dunks, but that was it.
I'm not trying to slight Braswell- he looked like a solid recruit with some potential. And MCI, I do agree that some young players who are pretty darn skinny get a lot of time in major programs. It seems to me, however, that many of those players are often taller, more athletic, and/or more skilled than Braswell (for instance, Samuel Dalembert, Brandon Wright, etc).
Maybe Braswell can hold his own in the BE from day one. But he's a fairly skinny young man, and he's not THAT big- 6'8" or so. I just see him needing to get at least a little stronger before we can count on him as a true interior player, which seems to be his role.
I will say this, though: he's quick enough to move around and function in our offense. That's a big plus. And he has the ability to finish inside. So I like those aspects of his game.
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balla
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Post by balla on Dec 5, 2007 14:53:07 GMT -5
I think it is fair to say that of all of GUs 08 kids, that Braswell is the unknown variable. If he makes it in, it really will be interesting to see how he performs...
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Post by prhoya on Dec 5, 2007 15:22:33 GMT -5
Agree. Many posters have been high on him, he had his transfer and injury, etc... I think he will be solid.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 6, 2007 0:05:18 GMT -5
I went to see Hargrave play against the Guilford College JV team last night, as Guilford is located near my home in Greensboro. I missed the first half, as Hargrave's site listed the start time as 7:30 rather than 7:00, but I saw the second half. Braswell looked decent. He is a fairly good athlete who got above the rim for a couple of dunks. Other than that, there wasn't much to say, as Hargrave destroyed the far inferior competition in a sloppy game. I will say that there was a huge disparity in talent in relation to the 2006 Hargrave team I saw play, with Macklin, Tyler Smith and company. But Braswell has at least a couple of other decent players to go up against in practice, including Roscoe Davis, who is a D-1 athlete with some size. Braswell looked to be having fun and seemed to have good rapport with his teammates. He will give us some size, but he needs to bulk up before he will be a factor in the Big East. I imagine him getting minimal time for a year or two and then competing for a spot as an upperclassman. Braswell had 13 points (co-team high) in this win over Guilford. Helen Cox HS won 55-23 tonight.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 6, 2007 21:01:32 GMT -5
Loyola HS lost 61-59 last night. No word on how Hollis did.
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Post by 02hoya on Dec 6, 2007 23:01:47 GMT -5
Loyola HS lost 61-59 last night. No word on how Hollis did. Looks like he had 20. Couldn't find anything else about boards, etc... tinyurl.com/2hbw2lLoyola -- ranked No. 16 in The Times' preseason rankings -- lost again and lost to a then-sub .500 Santa Monica squad, 61-60. Jamen Fearon and Edward Willis each scored 20 points for Santa Monica, and Georgetown-bound Hollis Thompson racked up 20 for the perplexing Cubs.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Dec 7, 2007 6:50:37 GMT -5
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Post by balla on Dec 7, 2007 13:39:11 GMT -5
Loyola HS lost 61-59 last night. No word on how Hollis did. Looks like he had 20. Couldn't find anything else about boards, etc... tinyurl.com/2hbw2lLoyola -- ranked No. 16 in The Times' preseason rankings -- lost again and lost to a then-sub .500 Santa Monica squad, 61-60. Jamen Fearon and Edward Willis each scored 20 points for Santa Monica, and Georgetown-bound Hollis Thompson racked up 20 for the perplexing Cubs. They do not have much of a PG. Their offense is pretty stagnant, and Hollis has to carry them. But he is consistently getting 20+... GU will have a lot of prospects playing in the local DC tourny this weekend(thornton), along with current commits(clark). I think Thornton and CLark also go head to head next week.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 8, 2007 16:17:40 GMT -5
Helen Cox won its first round game against Jesuit HS in a local tournament last night, 55-32. Photos: www.jesuitnola.org/athletics/Basketball_2007_NIT_Helen_Cox_Photo_G_12_07_08.htm. Yesterday's Mt. St. Joe's/St. John's game was postponed for unknown reasons. Fairfax HS has also bounced back with back-to-back wins in the El Segundo tournament and finished in 3rd place. On Edit: Helen Cox won today, 47-44, and will play tomorrow in the finals of the tournament against Destrehan HS.
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Post by RDF on Dec 9, 2007 7:00:34 GMT -5
In the 47-44 win, Greg Monroe had 20 pts, 9 rebounds, and 4 blocks--and went to FT line 14 times--and showing he's following the current team--made 6 of the 14 attempts. We know Greg's a Hoya--but he doesn't need to take it that far to prove it.
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 9, 2007 8:39:15 GMT -5
12-8-07 O'Connell 88, South Oak Cliff 64. Jason Clark had 26, including two 3's.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 9, 2007 21:34:54 GMT -5
Chris had 18 points and a team-high 11 boards in a win on Friday in the Fork Union Invitational. He followed up with 13 points yesterday in another win. Hargrave is now 12-0.
Helen Cox won the Newman Tournament this afternoon, 60-56. Greg was named tourney MVP. One of his teammates also made the all-tourney team.
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Post by balla on Dec 9, 2007 21:41:15 GMT -5
In the 47-44 win, Greg Monroe had 20 pts, 9 rebounds, and 4 blocks--and went to FT line 14 times--and showing he's following the current team--made 6 of the 14 attempts. We know Greg's a Hoya--but he doesn't need to take it that far to prove it. LOL. Well we all know that shooting is the weakest part of Monroe's game. Hope he works hard on it this season and in the Spring. Monroe and Vern will be the starting bigs next season, so they both have to improve.
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Post by RDF on Dec 10, 2007 2:33:52 GMT -5
No mention of other stats--but Greg Monroe had 29 in last night's win and was his 2nd straight MVP award for Helen Cox who won the tournament last year as well.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 10, 2007 5:10:28 GMT -5
Let us know how he did from the FT...
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Post by idhoya on Dec 10, 2007 23:38:55 GMT -5
I don't think shooting is his weak point. Rather his intensity level fluctuates. He didn't stay on the perimeter in GA as much, so all I saw was left hand dribble drives to the cup.
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